Good or New Movies Review

Thenomain

@wildbaboons said in Good or New Movies Review:

@firansurvivor said in Good or New Movies Review:

@tnp said in Good or New Movies Review:
Matt Smith ruined Dr. Who for me.

None will be as good as him.

I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic.

Everyone has Their Doctor.

Mine is Tom Baker.

Don’t disrespect anyone else’s choice, because they are all good. Or at least they’re all okay. I hated Colin Baker’s Doctor, but I understand that wasn’t his fault.

I adored Matt Smith more than the other Modern Era Doctors, but respect to anyone who didn’t.

ZombieGenesis

I grew up with Tom Baker and he'll always be "The Doctor" to me. For the modern era I enjoyed David Tennant the most but got burned out by the end of Matt Smith's run. Never watched any of the Peter Capaldi eps.

WildBaboons

@thenomain said in Good or New Movies Review:

..but I understand that wasn’t his fault.

I think this is true for Matt Smith too. Can't really say that HE was the problem, but everything else going on with the show. I think I made it through 1.5 seasons with him as the doctor before I just lost the urge to watch anymore.

RnMissionRun

I think that the decline of Dr Who during the Matt Smith years was the result of bad writing and bad scripts, more than it was anything to do with Smith himself (who is, IMO, a very competent actor).

Jaded

Saw the Last Jedi finally. I gave it a 1 star review on RT.

Bright on the other hand is fantastic.

Thenomain

@wildbaboons said in Good or New Movies Review:

@thenomain said in Good or New Movies Review:

..but I understand that wasn’t his fault.

I think this is true for Matt Smith too. Can't really say that HE was the problem, but everything else going on with the show. I think I made it through 1.5 seasons with him as the doctor before I just lost the urge to watch anymore.

So you were happy through Fart Monsters and The Girl Who Turned Into A Face In the Asphalt (edit: and dear god, Peter Pan Jesus-Doctor), but had a problem with Talking To Babies?

People are weird.

WildBaboons

@jaded I just saw it too.. and tend to agree with the 52% audience score on RT

It's odd.. it's such a good movie.. and also such a bad one. Thematic I guess, force and balance and all that.

Bobotron

@wildbaboons

I mentioned on FB earlier that I feel there are legit criticisms. A fiend of mine responded:

only if you do not how how film theory works, or have enjoyed all 4 transformers movies.

I'm sitting over here like...

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Arkandel

@jaded said in Good or New Movies Review:

Bright on the other hand is fantastic.

I watched Bright last night. My thoughts:

It's the closest thing we'll get to Shadowrun in a long, long time.
Creatively the concept itself was amazing. The grittiness, the photography and at times even some of the performances themselves were top notch as well.
It was deeply flawed. There was way too much exposition for the plot, the jokes were welll written but didn't come naturally - there may have been some chemistry issues between the leads, or possibly the direction accounted for the wooden acting - and its action scenes were often cringe-worthy.

Overall I'd give it a 6-7/10. I wish I could do more, the idea itself deserved it.

Jaded

@arkandel
If I were to write a full movie review, now that I have had a night to digest the movie and think about it - I would agree with everything you've said.

It will definitely fall into that guilty pleasure category for me since I intend to introduce it to my brother and watch it again with him.

Thenomain

I made an account on Rotten Tomatoes to give Last Jedi 5 Stars because I had to participate in this parade of butthurt.

Auspice

@arkandel said in Good or New Movies Review:

It was deeply flawed. There was way too much exposition for the plot, the jokes were welll written but didn't come naturally - there may have been some chemistry issues between the leads, or possibly the direction accounted for the wooden acting - and its action scenes were often cringe-worthy.

I really feel like they needed more table reads or at least the writer should have had some people sit around and read the dialogue aloud. It was just stilted at times. The daughter (at the beginning) didn't talk like a little girl. The exposition made me cringe. The story/plot was good. It flowed (from scene-to-scene) well with good timing, but the dialogue, man. It needed work.

Miss Demeanor

Per Bright:

I felt like the world needed more exposition. I was left with too many questions. Not about the characters, I found I couldn't actually bring myself to care about them... but about the WORLD. There's just so many questions, so much more I want to know about this place! They drop teasers and hints but so much is left up in the air!

Arkandel

@miss-demeanor said in Good or New Movies Review:

Per Bright:

I felt like the world needed more exposition. I was left with too many questions. Not about the characters, I found I couldn't actually bring myself to care about them... but about the WORLD. There's just so many questions, so much more I want to know about this place! They drop teasers and hints but so much is left up in the air!

If there was any more exposition the movie would last twice as long.

But seriously, I personally don't think having unanswered questions is a bad thing, especially if they were purposefully trying to turn this film into a franchise launching pad. Some mystery is good, leaving us hungry for more is great.

But even if they had decided to give us more information I'm not sure the way they already fed us what they did, often through things everyone in a room would have already known, was handled very well... it just felt pretty clumsy at times.

Miss Demeanor

@arkandel I will absolutely agree that I would not want to sit through an extra 20 minutes of them explaining stuff in awkward and stilted fashion (as was apparently the only way to share information of any kind in this movie). And yes, IF they are looking to make this a franchise, I can absolutely see leaving people hanging a bit. But man, I will be super disappointed if nothing comes of it. I want to know more!

Also, is it sad that the best relationship portrayed in that movie was between the orc gangster and his kid?

Arkandel

@miss-demeanor Also Will Smith. The dude is genuinely funny as hell, and he's shown he has major acting chops. Hell, he even had some pretty good lines in the script.

What the hell was it with his performance that couldn't get a chuckle out of me in this one?

Miss Demeanor

@arkandel Agreed. It almost feels like he was doing the movie against his will or something. He just put zero effort into the character.

Auspice

@miss-demeanor said in Good or New Movies Review:

@arkandel Agreed. It almost feels like he was doing the movie against his will or something. He just put zero effort into the character.

He may have been. Sometimes actors have to do a movie they don't want to be able to do a movie they do want. So if he or one of his kids show up in something that's clearly a 'passion project' soon... you have your answer.

He may have had to do Bright (so it had an A-list actor behind it) to get the green light on something else.

Miss Demeanor

@auspice This is true! And would explain a ton

Derp

Re: exposition in Bright -- be careful here. We are a group of nerds that already know what sorts of complicated social histories we can expect to see from the various races, how they interact, what place they would hold in society, etc.

Your average non-gamer Tolkien-illiterate 'what the hell is DnD/Warcraft' viewer will not.

You believe there was too much exposition perhaps because you are pretty much saturated in it. Me, I had to spend a good twenty minutes explaining to David why they didn't expand upon it more, since it was run of the mill nerd mythology.