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[Rinel]

@Testament said in RL Anger:

Not really RL Anger, more like RL Sad. Broke up with my girlfriend today. It was mutual. Nobody cheated. Nobody lied. Nobody did anything wrong. Said how great each other was. She wants kids and it's not something I really want myself. Couldn't figure a way out and ignoring it wasn't going to make the issue go away.

It was a great relationship, nothing horrible. No arguments. Just....didn't work. And I'm left at a loss.

I'm sorry. I had to do the same thing two weeks ago. I still love her. Pretty sure she still loves me. Things just weren't working out. I was with her for six years. It's been rough.

But hang in there. Both of us will get through it.

[Warma Sheen]

Apologies if this has come up in another forum (if so, feel free to delete) but I'm reading about this uproar about the New York Times an a pulled cartoon that was said to be anti-semetic.

After having looked at the cartoon, I'm having trouble seeing what the issue is. It seems to me to be a political commentary about how Israel is leading Trump around blindly. However, I've got no connection to the Jewish state or the Jewish people so I could be missing something very important and I'd like to know what it is. Because currently I feel quite ignorant and I figured you good people could help fix that.

Thanks.

[TNP]

@Warma-Sheen I'm not seeing it myself. I'm guessing that it's the usual 'any criticism of Israel is automatically anti-semitic'.

[insomniac7809]

Discussing Israel is a fucking minefield.

A great deal of anti-Semitic rhetoric is couched as criticism of Israel.

Even when it is not intended as anti-Semitic rhetoric, a great deal of criticism of Israel either uses talking points taken from anti-Semitic rhetoric that was couched as criticism of Israel, or unintentionally sounds a great deal like anti-Semitic rhetoric. (There's not as much daylight as we might like between "Israel exerts disproportionate influence on US policy" and "we are living under a ZOG").

This is compounded by both anti-Semites and certain pro-Israel groups being motivated to cast any aspirations against the state of Israel as anti-Semitic.

ETA: Having seen the cartoon in question: Bibi as a guide dog and Trump as a blind idiot would have been one thing. Putting a blue Star of David around Bibi's collar could maybe, maybe, maybe get benefit of the doubt as a symbol of Israel specifically. Putting Trump in a yarmulke, though? Yeah, that's a big ol' dog whistle, the Times was right to retract it and was right to apologize for it.

[Ganymede]

@insomniac7809 said in RL Anger:

ETA: Having seen the cartoon in question: Bibi as a guide dog and Trump as a blind idiot would have been one thing. Putting a blue Star of David around Bibi's collar could maybe, maybe, maybe get benefit of the doubt as a symbol of Israel specifically. Putting Trump in a yarmulke, though? Yeah, that's a big ol' dog whistle, the Times was right to retract it and was right to apologize for it.

I'm pretty sure the KKK would have something to say about their Good Ol' Boy with a yarmulke on.

[insomniac7809]

@Ganymede said in RL Anger:

@insomniac7809 said in RL Anger:

ETA: Having seen the cartoon in question: Bibi as a guide dog and Trump as a blind idiot would have been one thing. Putting a blue Star of David around Bibi's collar could maybe, maybe, maybe get benefit of the doubt as a symbol of Israel specifically. Putting Trump in a yarmulke, though? Yeah, that's a big ol' dog whistle, the Times was right to retract it and was right to apologize for it.

I'm pretty sure the KKK would have something to say about their Good Ol' Boy with a yarmulke on.

Some of Trump's Very Fine supporters at Charlottesville had Opinions about Ivanka being married to Kushner.

But antisemitism isn't a failing unique to the right wing.

[Ganymede]

@insomniac7809 said in RL Anger:

But antisemitism isn't a failing unique to the right wing.

Anyone who cannot meet questions of a biased nature without dismissing them based on that bias were never fit to answer questions in the first place.

[Deleted]

Fuck Israel.

I'm not an anti-semite, I'm just against fascist ethnostates.

[TNP]

Wearing a yarmulke is a sign of respect to those who do. If one attends an Orthodox wedding, for instance, yarmulkes are in a box by the door of the synagogue for those who don't normally wear one. I don't see having Trump in one as a dog whistle, merely a sign of Netanyahu's influence over him and no more significant than if it were Putin and he was wearing a cossack's hat.

ETA: The Star of David identifies who it is. I'd have had a hard time guessing without the symbols.

[insomniac7809]

@TNP said in RL Anger:

Wearing a yarmulke is a sign of respect to those who do. If one attends an Orthodox wedding, for instance, yarmulkes are in a box by the door of the synagogue for those who don't normally wear one. I don't see having Trump in one as a dog whistle, merely a sign of Netanyahu's influence over him and no more significant than if it were Putin and he was wearing a cossack's hat.

The yarmulke is a sign of respect to the Jewish faith, not to the nation of Israel.

Even Netanyahu isn't wearing a yarmulke in the given image. Criticizing the President for being lead around by Israel is one thing. Making part of the criticism a connection with Judaism in general makes pushes the image into antisemitic territory.

[Ganymede]

@insomniac7809 said in RL Anger:

Criticizing the President for being lead around by Israel is one thing. Making part of the criticism a connection with Judaism in general makes pushes the image into antisemitic territory.

As I said before, I'm pretty sure Stephen Miller objected.

[Tinuviel]

@Ganymede Of course. It's insulting to the puppet master to have someone else accused of being the puppet master.

[Ganymede]

@Tinuviel said in RL Anger:

It's insulting to the puppet master to have someone else accused of being the puppet master.

I find it ironic that you elected to call the person who probably enjoys getting fisted a "puppet master."

[Tinuviel]

@Ganymede Hey. No kink shaming.

ETA: To be fair, I can't keep up with who is supposed to be controlling who in US politics. I assume everyone is trying to control everything and everyone else.

[Ganymede]

@Tinuviel said in RL Anger:

Hey. No kink shaming.

I will kink-shame the fuck out of some prick who feels so entitled and in-tune with the oppressed white man that he thinks he's a shining beacon of virtue in an immoral world.

Fuck that guy, I will shame him until he dies in front of his loved ones from a horrible, scarring, debilitating illness that makes him beg for mercy.

[surreality]

I initially skimmed and read this as:

@Ganymede said in RL Anger:

I will kink-shame the fuck out of some prick who feels so entitled and in-tune with the oppressed white man that he thinks he's a shining BACON of virtue in an immoral world.

...it made me much happier, somehow. I share it in hopes it will help do the same for you.

[Ganymede]

@surreality said in RL Anger:

...it made me much happier, somehow. I share it in hopes it will help do the same for you.

I don't consider people who have an ideology rooted in my annihilation to be deserving of anything short of the sort of agony that comes from being vivisected.

I need a kitty to temper my rage, but there is none in sight or cuddling distance.

[surreality]

@Ganymede ...I meant reading it as a 'bacon of virtue' was oddly apt, considering the person in question, and thus funny to me. Not... anything else. I have no idea what's even happening right now.

[Tinuviel]

Whatever it is needs to continue in the politics section, not here.

[tek]

Right now I am irrationally angry at the Latin verb "appropinquabamus". IDK why. It just feels like it's fucking with me.