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    • Tempest
      Tempest Banned @ZombieGenesis last edited by

      @ZombieGenesis said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

      to link to an image in their @descs as it brings up that image in the client itself

      Wait what

      Who invented this technology

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      • Auspice
        Auspice @Tempest last edited by

        @Tempest said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

        @ZombieGenesis said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

        to link to an image in their @descs as it brings up that image in the client itself

        Wait what

        Who invented this technology

        Pueblo is the first client I remember having images. MUCKs used it a lot early 2000s.

        Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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        • ZombieGenesis
          ZombieGenesis @Auspice last edited by

          @Tempest Yeah, Pueblo was the first client I remember it working in but I always hated Pueblo. I thought it was clunky and inelegant. I very much like BeipMU, however. Instead of opening the image in the output panel it opens it in a dedicated image panel. I love it.

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          • Auspice
            Auspice last edited by Auspice

            So I dug this up. I had a friend share this desc with me a while back from Marsilikos because they had a ??????? when they saw it. This is a good example of 'I have no idea what this person is trying to describe:'

            Those famed violet eyes of House L'Envers paired to honey gold skin of House Mereliot place a visible stamp on her heritage. A shade under six feet tall, she blazes with all the energy of the famed lighthouse overlooking Marsilikos' harbour, had it taken on mortal form. Her lithe figure complements her height, bearing neither tattoos or scars to differentiate her youthful complexion. All the seething radiance glittering in her brilliant eyes and animating her lively expression bestows a natural warmth and candor. Her fingers are notably beringed and calloused, indicative of a committed performer. Clear features bear an unquestionable d'Angeline stamp, leaving her a black opal among priceless gems, for the dichotomy of her dark, arching brows and thick lashes against her dusky gold colouration is a stark one. Typically she wears the masses of her dark hair pulled back into an elaborate braid that would vex a spider, threaded by a circlet of small gems on gossamer strands as another trademark.

            They never linked me to a wiki page, so I have no idea if there was a PB, but I cannot get an image of this person in my head AT ALL.

            ETA: I use this desc as an example since it doesn't include PC name, so there's only name/shame if you ever saw it (I was never given the PC name either)

            Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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            • Roz
              Roz Banned last edited by

              She is tall, dark hair, golden skin, violet eyes, lithe build, and expressive features.

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              • Pandora
                Pandora last edited by

                Is it prose-y? Sure. Is it hard to read? No. FFS it's 7 sentences, not 7 paragraphs.

                Tinuviel about 9 hours ago
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                • Auspice
                  Auspice @Pandora last edited by

                  @Pandora said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                  Is it prose-y? Sure. Is it hard to read? No. FFS it's 7 sentences, not 7 paragraphs.

                  Legibility and length are two different things in my book. This paragraph rates at poor legibility (and that's not just me: throw it in Hemingway Editor).

                  I don't mind a long, multi-paragraph desc if it's legible and I don't have to spend a couple minutes deciphering it.

                  Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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                  • Tempest
                    Tempest Banned last edited by Tempest

                    That is a LOT of fluffy bullshit crammed into 7 sentences.

                    I mean I love purple prose and fluff and pose 6+ paragraphs with certain RP partners, but still.

                    That is the most tryhard desc I have ever read.

                    Mind you it’s not /bad/ but goddamn.

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                    • Kanye Qwest
                      Kanye Qwest Banned last edited by

                      i had no trouble with that desc tbh. I've definitely seen more oblique.

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                      • Auspice
                        Auspice last edited by

                        It was also an example. I picked it because a) I knew where to find it quickly, and b) it doesn't include the character name.

                        There is absolutely worse out there, but that one is a good example IMO because it is more florid prose than actual description.

                        I almost feel like there should/could be two descriptions. The overly fancy (more for your own sense of ego) and the one that gets down to brass tacks so that someone can look at you mid-scene and go 'okay, that's right, she has green eyes.'

                        Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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                        • Autumn
                          Autumn @Auspice last edited by

                          @Auspice said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                          I almost feel like there should/could be two descriptions. The overly fancy (more for your own sense of ego) and the one that gets down to brass tacks so that someone can look at you mid-scene and go 'okay, that's right, she has green eyes.'

                          Isn't that what shortdescs are for? Or is that too little information?

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                          • Auspice
                            Auspice @Autumn last edited by

                            @Autumn said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                            @Auspice said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                            I almost feel like there should/could be two descriptions. The overly fancy (more for your own sense of ego) and the one that gets down to brass tacks so that someone can look at you mid-scene and go 'okay, that's right, she has green eyes.'

                            Isn't that what shortdescs are for? Or is that too little information?

                            It's often too little. Whenever I try to fit everything in, I go over the allotted amount of space. People don't always put in the details! You might just get 'Unassuming dude' or 'Colorful young woman' and it's like okay but uh, how tall is he?! or what color are her eyes?!

                            But whenever I try to cover: race, height, eyes, build..... it doesn't all fit. I super appreciate that Ares (and Arxcode in the bio data above the desc!) provide these.

                            Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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                            • Ganymede
                              Ganymede Admin @ZekeTheG33k last edited by

                              @Seamus said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                              I do understand that there is no real 'damage' but with their 'reputation' might qualify?

                              This would only be the case if the content of the page were to insinuate that Ms. Blunt was actually a rabid serial killer. That would be more akin to defamation, which is where the line of cases related to "unauthorized use of likeness" draws most of its inspiration from.

                              I selected her because she has a rather 'disney friendly' image in some of her movies.

                              Do you remember when she was washing blood off herself in Sicario?

                              Anyhow, what I mean is, yes, I understand why an artist might be concerned, but there's something to be said about free publicity.

                              A public figure, which these subjects may be considered, may sue for the value of the use of their image. Given how the image was found online at a public site, one may easily argue that the value is zero because it was obtained for free. If the image had some value, like a nude photo, then there may be some sort of price tag attached.

                              “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                              • ZekeTheG33k
                                ZekeTheG33k @Ganymede last edited by

                                @Ganymede I never... saw that movie. So... I stand corrected.

                                Pay no attention to me. I'm old, jaded and generally unfriendly. I am prone to fits of stupidity, but I am still unique, just like everyone else. ~~ Current President of the Anti-Faraday fan club.

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                                • Ghost
                                  Ghost @ZekeTheG33k last edited by

                                  @Seamus said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                                  @Ganymede I never... saw that movie. So... I stand corrected.

                                  Oh shit, Sicario was amazing. See it.

                                  Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
                                  I really don't understand He-Man

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                                  • peasoupling
                                    peasoupling @Roz last edited by

                                    @Roz said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                                    She is tall, dark hair, golden skin, violet eyes, lithe build, and expressive features.

                                    And covered in stamps.

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                                    • Auspice
                                      Auspice @peasoupling last edited by

                                      @peasoupling said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                                      @Roz said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                                      She is tall, dark hair, golden skin, violet eyes, lithe build, and expressive features.

                                      And covered in stamps.

                                      giggle

                                      Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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                                      • gryphter
                                        gryphter @Auspice last edited by

                                        @Auspice said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                                        Those famed violet eyes of House L'Envers paired to honey gold skin of House Mereliot place a visible stamp on her heritage. A shade under six feet tall, she blazes with all the energy of the famed lighthouse overlooking Marsilikos' harbour, had it taken on mortal form. Her lithe figure complements her height, bearing neither tattoos or scars to differentiate her youthful complexion. All the seething radiance glittering in her brilliant eyes and animating her lively expression bestows a natural warmth and candor. Her fingers are notably beringed and calloused, indicative of a committed performer. Clear features bear an unquestionable d'Angeline stamp, leaving her a black opal among priceless gems, for the dichotomy of her dark, arching brows and thick lashes against her dusky gold colouration is a stark one. Typically she wears the masses of her dark hair pulled back into an elaborate braid that would vex a spider, threaded by a circlet of small gems on gossamer strands as another trademark.

                                        TL;DR Has spiders in her hair.

                                        Hating haters and their hate since a year that neither rhymes nor alliterates

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                                        • surreality
                                          surreality last edited by

                                          I like Shang's '+glance' for the 'more than a short desc, but just the facts'. It has skin, eye, and hair color, species(? I think?), height and weight/build, and displays under the short desc line.

                                          Oh fucking well.

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                                          • Auspice
                                            Auspice @surreality last edited by

                                            @surreality said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:

                                            I like Shang's '+glance' for the 'more than a short desc, but just the facts'. It has skin, eye, and hair color, species(? I think?), height and weight/build, and displays under the short desc line.

                                            I've been on a couple games that have had things like this and it is handy because, f'real, digging through someone's desc to remember if they're tall or short or slim or built or red-head or bald or... is a PITA because not everyone constructs descs in the same order. So add in purple prose and ugh.

                                            Like, my descs go from height to build to general physicalities to hair to facial features. But other people go in the opposite order. And others mix things up. And there's nothing wrong with that, mind you! But it makes 'at a glance' tricky.

                                            Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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