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    • TNP
      TNP @hedgehog last edited by

      @hedgehog said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

      @hedgehog Philip was House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, actually.

      I've identified coins from that German State. German State coins are a pain.

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      • Rinel
        Rinel Banned @hedgehog last edited by Rinel

        @hedgehog said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

        @Rinel

        If we're going to be super pedantic, he's a Battenberg. He's Mountbatten, she's Windsor, and their male children have the hyphenate Mountbatten-Windsor. Not sure what Anne got as her surname.

        But really they're both Gothe-Saxe-Coburg or some shit.

        look if you're gonna move into a lady's really nice house and get all her fancy stuff you can take her last name

        I don't make the rules

        (I do make the rules)

        super pedantically, are there actually rules? My understanding was that though they belong to houses, the royals do not have surnames.

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        • Tinuviel
          Tinuviel @Rinel last edited by

          @rinel said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

          are there actually rules

          Yes, there are. Lots of them.

          When a royal needs to use a surname, they don't generally use their house, they use the name of their title. Prince Charles uses Wales, as did his sons prior to gaining their own titles, for instance.

          He/Him

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          • Aria
            Aria @Tinuviel last edited by Aria

            @tinuviel said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

            @rinel said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

            are there actually rules

            Yes, there are. Lots of them.

            When a royal needs to use a surname, they don't generally use their house, they use the name of their title. Prince Charles uses Wales, as did his sons prior to gaining their own titles, for instance.

            It's actually even more complicated than that!

            In 1917, the family adopted the surname "Windsor" by the order of then-King George V. Sometime in the early 1950s, the Queen amended that order to Mountbatten-Windsor to reflect Prince Phillip's family name, but it only applies to her descendants. However, that's a surname that he adopted from his mother in the 1940s after WWII because, y'know, for some reason the Brits were feeling super salty about the Germans and didn't really want a royal consort running around named Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, as @hedgehog mentioned.

            However, @Tinuviel is also correct in that several royals use surnames derived from their father's title on institutional paperwork. Like he said, both of Charles' sons used Wales as a derivative of their father's title of Prince of Wales and George, William's son, uses George Cambridge at school, because his father is the Duke of Cambridge. Whether or not that would change when Lizzie passes and everyone moves up a rank in the succession, I don't know....

            Because there are, in fact, a lot of rules. But when you're the royal family, you also just get to make those rules up because fuck it, you can. And that's basically the same thing as not having any rules at all, @Rinel.

            In short, everyone is technically correct. Which as we know, is the best kind of correct.

            https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
            There were never any good old days. They are today. They are tomorrow. It's a stupid thing we say, cursing tomorrow with sorrow. -- Gogol Bordello

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            • Tinuviel
              Tinuviel @Aria last edited by

              @aria said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

              Whether or not that would change when Lizzie passes and everyone moves up a rank in the succession, I don't know....

              It probably would, assuming Charles follows precedent and his heir becomes the Prince of Wales. That said he'd also still be the Duke of Cambridge, so it's possible that George would use it as a courtesy title.

              He/Him

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              • Aria
                Aria @Tinuviel last edited by

                @tinuviel said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

                It probably would, assuming Charles follows precedent and his heir becomes the Prince of Wales. That said he'd also still be the Duke of Cambridge, so it's possible that George would use it as a courtesy title.

                Yeah, that's the part where I get a bit confused. Like you said, Charles also used "Wales" as a surname when he was in the military rather than using his father's title, Duke of Edinburgh. But I assume that this is because the title Prince of Wales is higher in precedence than his father's title of Duke.

                https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
                There were never any good old days. They are today. They are tomorrow. It's a stupid thing we say, cursing tomorrow with sorrow. -- Gogol Bordello

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                • Tinuviel
                  Tinuviel @Aria last edited by

                  @aria said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

                  But I assume that this is because the title Prince of Wales is higher in precedence than his father's title of Duke.

                  Either that or because it was his title, independent of any title from his father. Whereas his sons didn't have an independent title until they married.

                  He/Him

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                  • Too Old For This
                    Too Old For This last edited by

                    Hey guys? Can we maybe split this off into its own thread?

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                    • Tinuviel
                      Tinuviel @Too Old For This last edited by

                      @too-old-for-this said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

                      Hey guys? Can we maybe split this off into its own thread?

                      Given we stopped talking about it three hours before your request... no?

                      He/Him

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                      • Coin
                        Coin last edited by

                        Helen McCrory.

                        "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                        • Herja
                          Herja Banned @Coin last edited by

                          @coin This one hurts. She was one of my favorite actresses. I’ve loved her since she was in Charles II:The Power and Passion.

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                          • Kestrel
                            Kestrel Banned @Coin last edited by

                            @coin said in Dead Celebrities 2021 Edition:

                            Helen McCrory.

                            RIP Polly

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                            • W
                              Waller last edited by

                              Jim Steinman, songwriter for Meatloaf, Bonnie Tyler, and others, passes away at the age of 73

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                                Waller last edited by

                                Digital Underground rapper Shock G, AKA Humpty Hump, passed away, 57

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                                  Macha @Waller last edited by

                                  @waller This makes me sad. Of course Humpty Hump is how I got exposed to Digital Underground, but then they worked with 2pac and.. well.

                                  It's always the super talented guy who gets remembered for the silly shit he did for laughs, I guess.

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                                  • Prism
                                    Prism Banned last edited by

                                    Ana Lúcia Menezes

                                    Voice actress for many different cartoons.

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                                    • BetterNow
                                      BetterNow last edited by

                                      Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Astronaut, 90. Cancer.

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                                      • Tinuviel
                                        Tinuviel last edited by

                                        Juan Joya Borja, known as ‘El Risitas’, passes at 65

                                        El Risitas

                                        He/Him

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                                        • Ifrit
                                          Ifrit Banned last edited by

                                          Olympia Dukakis 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞

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                                          • Derp
                                            Derp Admin @Ifrit last edited by

                                            @ifrit

                                            And I just watched Steel Magnolias. 😞

                                            Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.

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