Jun 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

@Thenomain said in Do you believe in paranormal things?:

@Arkandel said in Do you believe in paranormal things?:

What were the results of your decades of research? What were your methods? Show me.

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You know, Ark, I know you really like playing Devil's Advocate (to a point where I suspect that you need some psychological help), but this takes the cake. You're all over the place, similar to the people who want to "disprove" global warming. I'd believe this was beneath you, but here you are.

First of all Theno, you are coming off as unusually condescending in this. And that's you, so that's a little bit more than most people.

Concerns about my mental health aside could you please point out where I was playing devil's advocate in this case? And what exactly am I doing that is 'similar' to people wanting to disprove global warming (!) ?

We have methods for this determining what is true and what is not. Scientific Method is not a stick we measure things by. It's a way we discover those measurements. The basis of Scientific Method relies on disproving its discoveries. Without it, it would be a belief system. But it's not. Scientific Method does not have an enemy in the Bible, against Flat Earthers, against ghosts, against magic, against even Intelligent fucking Design.

Er, well, yes. I'm waiting for you to come to the point where you disagree with what I'm saying strongly enough to warrant your initial position. I have the utmost respect in the scientific method and I was advocating it as the universal standard that it is.

And that's where I go from reading this thread with a modicum of interest to enough salt to attract all the deer in Ohio. (hint: there are a lot of deer in Ohio.) "Well, you don't really know-know, therefore what you're doing is belief" is the attack that the Discovery Institute has been doing to sell their snake oil as "science" to indoctrinate school children for the last decade or so.

You don't really know-know until you prove it. You can theorize anything at all and maybe you're right and maybe you are not. That's where the process of peer review after one is done formulating their hpothesis and communicating their findings comes in.

Usually I don't mind and even expect arrogance in your responses but I suppose in this case you managed to push a button. Congratulations!