The Apology Thread

Coin · Dec 15, 2016, 7:00 PM

There is no way I would knowingly let Seiche play or staff on my game(s). I haven't interacted with her in over a decade, but I have heard of the games she has ruined.

Seiche hasn't MU*d since Denver, IIRC, which is nearing on the, what, 8-9 year mark?

She's too busy having a successful writing career, whether anyone else who knew her likes it or not, apparently.

surreality · Dec 15, 2016, 8:20 PM

@Coin No snark intended, that sounds like a happy ending for all involved. Why can't more shit like that happen? Get on with that, universe.

Catsmeow · Dec 15, 2016, 9:02 PM

I would like a writing career. Of course, that probably means I'd have to focus enough to wri ..... oh look something shiny

Ganymede · Dec 15, 2016, 9:47 PM

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

Seiche hasn't MU*d since Denver, IIRC, which is nearing on the, what, 8-9 year mark?

I'm pretty sure that's incorrect, but there are people here with better, personal knowledge.

surreality · Dec 16, 2016, 1:58 AM

@Catsmeow said in The Apology Thread:

I would like a writing career. Of course, that probably means I'd have to focus enough to wri ..... oh look something shiny

...clearly, we have the same life. I am the ADD poster child, so, so much empath--WAIT, THERE'S A SHINY?!

Miss Demeanor · Dec 16, 2016, 1:58 AM

@surreality @Catsmeow tosses a handful of new pennies into the air

Catsmeow · Dec 16, 2016, 2:08 AM

ferret wardance/vibrates

Sooooo shiny. This must be what the cheap hookers feel like.

Coin · Dec 16, 2016, 4:04 PM

@Ganymede said in The Apology Thread:

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

Seiche hasn't MU*d since Denver, IIRC, which is nearing on the, what, 8-9 year mark?

I'm pretty sure that's incorrect, but there are people here with better, personal knowledge.

Which part?

@surreality said in The Apology Thread:

@Coin No snark intended, that sounds like a happy ending for all involved. Why can't more shit like that happen? Get on with that, universe.

Absolutely.

Ganymede · Dec 20, 2016, 1:25 AM

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

Which part?

The part about Denver being the last place Seiche, et al. fucked up.

Coin · Dec 20, 2016, 4:10 PM

@Ganymede said in The Apology Thread:

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

Which part?

The part about Denver being the last place Seiche, et al. fucked up.

IIRC, that was the last public game she played on. If there was another after it was short-lived. She hasn't, to my knowledge, MUed for like the past 8 years, more or less. As for 'et al.', that's a different kettle of fish.

Ganymede · Dec 20, 2016, 5:42 PM

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

IIRC, that was the last public game she played on. If there was another after it was short-lived. She hasn't, to my knowledge, MUed for like the past 8 years, more or less. As for 'et al.', that's a different kettle of fish.

Denver blew the fuck up over ten years ago, so that leaves two years in which the perpetrator could have continued her spree. Also, Denver didn't shut down after Seiche, et al., departed for greener pastures (to rape and pillage).

Coin · Dec 20, 2016, 5:54 PM

@Ganymede said in The Apology Thread:

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

IIRC, that was the last public game she played on. If there was another after it was short-lived. She hasn't, to my knowledge, MUed for like the past 8 years, more or less. As for 'et al.', that's a different kettle of fish.

Denver blew the fuck up over ten years ago, so that leaves two years in which the perpetrator could have continued her spree. Also, Denver didn't shut down after Seiche, et al., departed for greener pastures (to rape and pillage).

Well, I mean, not to get nitpicky, but that's the last game I remember her playing on. If you had any specifics I would consider them, but ... on the other hand, i don't care that much. She's been gone for a long time.

Ganymede · Dec 20, 2016, 6:01 PM

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

Well, I mean, not to get nitpicky, but that's the last game I remember her playing on. If you had any specifics I would consider them, but ... on the other hand, i don't care that much. She's been gone for a long time.

Devilshire comes to mind. My recollection of games beyond 2010 is a bit spotty, but I'm pretty sure the Ham-Crew migrated over there after turning Denver's Changeling Sphere into a smoking pit.

@Sunny may have more or better details than I. She had to personally live through the horror.

Sunny · Dec 20, 2016, 6:13 PM

@Ganymede

I did have to live through it, but to be honest, I don't remember a whole lot of when which things happened or in what order anymore. My memory is full of holes (yay, brain damage), and it takes effort I don't want to expend to try and keep all that garbage straight in my head. I'm pretty sure Denver was the last not-their mush that I was involved in with them and having to deal with their crap -- I didn't play on Devlishire, so I'm not sure when that was. After I split with those folks, I stopped being able to keep track of them. I will say that I maintain that Seiche wasn't the problem with the group, she was just a significant symptom. The real bad actors were a little less obvious there.

Edited to add: I know the mess of them infected TR's Changeling sphere for a while. Seiche by that time had already been attacked and cut loose for being RL successful though, to my knowledge.

Coin · Dec 20, 2016, 6:24 PM

@Ganymede said in The Apology Thread:

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

Well, I mean, not to get nitpicky, but that's the last game I remember her playing on. If you had any specifics I would consider them, but ... on the other hand, i don't care that much. She's been gone for a long time.

Devilshire comes to mind. My recollection of games beyond 2010 is a bit spotty, but I'm pretty sure the Ham-Crew migrated over there after turning Denver's Changeling Sphere into a smoking pit.

@Sunny may have more or better details than I. She had to personally live through the horror.

Seiche never played on Devilshire.

Cupcake · Dec 20, 2016, 6:31 PM

I can verify what Coin said.

Devilshire had its own brand of cancer.

Coin · Dec 20, 2016, 6:33 PM

@Cupcake said in The Apology Thread:

I can verify what Coin said.

Devilshire had its own brand of cancer.

Hackmaster, Master of Hacks.

Granted, it was his game, but he was just so creepy.

surreality · Dec 20, 2016, 6:42 PM

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

@Cupcake said in The Apology Thread:

I can verify what Coin said.

Devilshire had its own brand of cancer.

Hackmaster, Master of Hacks.

Granted, it was his game, but he was just so creepy.

This sounds like a story that needs telling for those of us who weren't around thenabouts, because we were in hiding on Shang. (OK, that's probably just me, but I'm sure other people weren't around to know the tale of woe, too.)

Coin · Dec 20, 2016, 6:50 PM

@surreality said in The Apology Thread:

@Coin said in The Apology Thread:

@Cupcake said in The Apology Thread:

I can verify what Coin said.

Devilshire had its own brand of cancer.

Hackmaster, Master of Hacks.

Granted, it was his game, but he was just so creepy.

This sounds like a story that needs telling for those of us who weren't around thenabouts, because we were in hiding on Shang. (OK, that's probably just me, but I'm sure other people weren't around to know the tale of woe, too.)

So many stories.

When I apped as a member of the Magical Mafia Crime Family, I did so with a charfacter who was very ambitious IC. He took the time to pull me aside and inform me I would never make it to family head status because he ran that family with his PC.

Fast forward maybe four months and I was basically running the joint with @Quibbler.

He also spent an hour and a half explaining in excrutiatingly boring detail his plans for the game's metaplot (I was becoming plot staff) which was pretty much just a version of Buffy Season 7 but with different dressings, and at the end he informed me I could tell him how brilliant he was. I didn't.

As for the creepy bits... so my character had a secretary who had the hots for him, but they never did anything. But Hack had the hots for her so he made a character with my character's first name and then went out of his way to seduce her. Her player is a total troll so she goes along with it. Anyone, one day I get a page from her where she's like "wtf" because she's been telling him for weeks she can't TS because she plays from work and so his response is to set the scene by describing, in extra detail, how his character fucked hers and stuff. Like, he seemed to think that just because she couldn't play it, didn't mean he couldn't pose it? I guess?

I just noped right out of that. She handled it however she handled it, but just damn.

Cupcake · Dec 20, 2016, 7:16 PM

@Coin: I was thinking of that nasty couple who basically decided they hated me and spread all kinds of nasty about me on WORA back in the day. I genuinely wouldn't piss on either of them if they were on fire. I will quite readily admit between the verbal abuse and the fact that they posted a pic of me on the forum explicitly to make fun of, the fall-out sent me to therapy.

But yeah, Hack had serious problems. I put up with a lot from him, but his groping one of my characters without her consent and then him getting huffy and wounded puppy because I called him on it? I was so done.