Jul 23, 2019, 4:03 AM
@Cobaltasaurus said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
The problem is that homeopathy and alternative medicine also give a haven for a lot of quacks and woo peddlers.
I really can't disagree with that.
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@Cobaltasaurus said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
The problem is that homeopathy and alternative medicine also give a haven for a lot of quacks and woo peddlers.
I really can't disagree with that.
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I am very glad that this discussion is being undertaken as politely and informatively as it is. It is an exceptionally important conversation to have.
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@Tinuviel said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
I am very glad that this discussion is being undertaken as politely and informatively as it is. It is an exceptionally important conversation to have.
The more I have watched video essays and reports by people like Myles Power and Jeff Holiday the most passionately I feel about it. Now, mind you, I also had chronic bronchitis and breathing issues and get ear infections a lot (or used to on into adulthood) b/c my mother gave me "alternative medicine" antibiotics as a child one winter when I got really sick. An "immune booster" or some shit that was a bunch of grass packed into a pill capsule b/c her second husband convinced her that alternative medicine was better.... and well guess what, by the time she finally took me to an actual doctor I had bronchial pneumonia and an ear infection so bad I had pus dripping out of my ears.
(Possibly b/c my ears hurt so bad that I was sleeping with cotton balls in them... try waking up and pulling a cotton ball out of your ear and green ooze leaking down the side of your neck.)
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Homeopathy and homeopathic medicine are different. Homeopathy had literally no active ingredient in it and works wholly on placebo which can be harmful when promoted instead of treatments such as cancer. Homeopathic medicine supposedly takes into account the whole person and is also called holistic. It's complementary, not alternative and will use proven medicine as well as other therapies.
The good quality trials with homeopathy showed no difference from placebo.
Useful website called what's the harm
The line between complementary and quackery is the evidence base and the ethics
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This is the first time I've heard homoeopathic medicine and holistic medicine being interchangeable.
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I keep waking up nauseated and feeling unwell and I don't know what's causing it. I think it's probably dehydration. It sucks.
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@Tinuviel They can be used interchangeably or differently, depending on context. I like to think I provided holistic care to my patients, etc.. Homeopathic medicine (as in the practice) is not the same as homeopathic medicine (the not-a-drug), which I realise I phrased poorly
https://partnersinpediatrics.com/resources/holistic-vs-homeopathic-vs-integrative-care/
But basically, homeopathy doesn't work when tested, and delays treatments shown to work when used before or as a stand-alone treatment.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/homeopathy/
I got into a real fight with a local guy claiming his machine treated neurodegenerative diseases. I asked him for his evidence, he couldn't produce some so I reported him to the advertising standards people and let the local patient groups know. It does real harm to populations where hope is a rare commodity and finances are tight. To charge for a treatment that does not work is ethically dodgy AF.
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@Cobaltasaurus said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
Now, mind you, I also had chronic bronchitis and breathing issues and get ear infections a lot (or used to on into adulthood) b/c my mother gave me "alternative medicine" antibiotics as a child one winter when I got really sick. An "immune booster" or some shit that was a bunch of grass packed into a pill capsule b/c her second husband convinced her that alternative medicine was better.... and well guess what, by the time she finally took me to an actual doctor I had bronchial pneumonia and an ear infection so bad I had pus dripping out of my ears.
I want to take this and interject generally to say that I would never advocate for homeopathy or homeopathic medical treatment first. Studies upon studies upon studies lend greater credibility in my mind to the practice of modern medicine. And there is a rather fine line between accurate and inaccurate statements.
For example, in the UK there was the "Alkaline Diet" fad, which has been thoroughly debunked. That said, doctors all agree that what you eat does have a profound effect on your cancer risk. The Alkaline Diet encourages eating more fruits and vegetables, and less processed meats and high-fat dairy products. And coincidentally, doing exactly that may, in fact, have a profound effect on your health if you previously ate a lot of processed meats and high-fat dairy products.
All that said, my partner is still the worst eater I know, and I swear to God I don't know how that woman is still alive, except through sheer spite.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@JinShei said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
Homeopathic medicine (as in the practice) is not the same as homeopathic medicine (the not-a-drug), which I realise I phrased poorly
https://partnersinpediatrics.com/resources/holistic-vs-homeopathic-vs-integrative-care/
Quoting the site "Homeopathy is natural because its remedies are produced according to the U.S. FDA-recognized Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States from natural sources"
If they're referencing the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia, they mean the water memory fake stuff.
The FDA approves it only in the sense that it has been shown not to harm people (of course not, it is just water), not in the sense that it does anything. The FDA only does that much because a homeopath got elected to the senate in the 30s and passed legislation that forces them to.
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@Cheesegrater yep. Homeopathy the basically water one.
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@Ganymede said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
except through sheer spite.
Isn't that how we're all still alive?
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@Tinuviel said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
@Ganymede said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
except through sheer spite.
Isn't that how we're all still alive?
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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Adapting from years of call centers and similar work with hard expectations on 'numbers' has left me really anxious at times at my new job.
In a call center, they expect certain output (things like 'ten calls per hour' regardless of call complexity or volume). Now... I have a sort of open-ended, self-guided environment and while I have deadlines, I get to have a voice in them.
Last week my boss said she wanted a rough draft of the table of contents for this manual in three weeks. I told her probably, yes, but it relied on when a meeting with the process team happened (in a guide informed by process, you kinda need the process to start outlining at the macro level). That meeting got scheduled for the 1st.
Today I emailed her to say hey, between this meeting being on the 1st and us running workshops the 5th and 6th (which will let me get an idea of 'real world' usage of the product), I'm going to push my estimate for delivery back to the 9th.
I had a hard time hitting send on that email. I was so concerned I'd get push back because 'how hard is it to do a table of contents?' or similar. Nope. Just got told that's okay.
God, switching that mindset is so hard.
Now to go back to actually learning this product...
Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.
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This kind of thing fascinates me: https://www.vox.com/2019/7/23/20702987/brain-psychology-making-hard-decisions
Just the idea we are all liable to make very bad - or at least erratic - decisions regardless of whether we are normally rational, educated, intelligent or even cautious individuals.
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For financial reasons, I've been off most my meds (after next week, I should be able to afford some of them again even sans-insurance since that won't go active until October... lolhalfwaythroughmycontract).
Today is the first day it was really noticeable. I can tell the anti-anxiety meds are out of my system. I was on my way to a standard, daily interview that's never been an issue before... and felt the panic welling up inside.
I hate that feeling.
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Two full on panic attacks today. Hands when numb, lips went numb, was sure I was going to suffocate. Whee. I am not so sure the Celexa is working.
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@Macha Keep in mind that these drugs take some time to take affect and are messing with your brain chemistry. Might be rougher before easing up.
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@Wretched said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
@Macha Keep in mind that these drugs take some time to take affect and are messing with your brain chemistry. Might be rougher before easing up.
And the dose might need tweaking before it works as close to perfectly as it can.