FCs on Comic MUs

[Prototart]

@arkandel said in FCs on Comic MUs:

Am I the only person here who thinks that in the context of a game like this, being a goddamn dirty mutie overrides pretty much anything regarding their sexual orientation, race, etc?

They are already freaking out about you existing at all, you abomination. They fear and hate you. What more can they do if you're also fucking the wrong gender?

Seriously anything on top of Mutant and all that means is "see? See? Didn't we tell you they're all depraved?"

[Thenomain]

@prototart said in FCs on Comic MUs:

Seriously anything on top of Mutant and all that means is "see? See? Didn't we tell you they're all depraved?"

I had a flashback to literally today, concerning people of color.

[Ganymede]

@tnp said in FCs on Comic MUs:

As for gender swaps, they can be particularly interesting because of the same reasoning. Like gays, blacks, mutants and other minorities, women are still second class citizens. Women with power are very rare. (By power I include things like being a CEO, a police detective, etc.) If they happen at all, they're going to be the subject of prejudice and/or resentment. We make sure this is noted during the app process and is usually a flaw or mentioned in the BG. A female Cap would be problematic since women combatants were not a thing in WWII and would certainly not be the subject of super soldier experiments. If possible at all, there would need to be a lot of consultation with staff on how that would work.

I think the question I have is, knowing that women and homosexuals are going to be oppressed, are you putting any limits on gender swaps or non-heterosexuality? Because I'm not hearing "yes."

[ixokai]

@ganymede said in FCs on Comic MUs:

I think the question I have is, knowing that women and homosexuals are going to be oppressed, are you putting any limits on gender swaps or non-heterosexuality? Because I'm not hearing "yes."

The oppression is almost if not entirely the realm of NPCs. The average black NPC is likely to hear the n-word from time to time from the average idiot white NPC. The PC isn't likely to. But the PC's background should reflect the world and how they managed to be the exception.

The average homosexual NPC might be in a club and have it raided and get taken to jail. Its not likely to happen to a PC unless the PC actually decided to pose it happening.

PC's are special. For one thing most of them have super-powers: if someone decided to gaybash Wiccan he'd turn them into a frog.

And no we aren't really putting limits on gender-swaps or sexualities except there's some things that just don't make sense. Someone would have to explain how a FemCap was in a super-soldier program when there were no female soldiers. I'm not saying its impossible but that would need to be worked out.

[bored]

Damn Skrulls, taking our jerbs.

[Autumn]

@tnp said in FCs on Comic MUs:

A female Cap would be problematic since women combatants were not a thing in WWII and would certainly not be the subject of super soldier experiments. If possible at all, there would need to be a lot of consultation with staff on how that would work.

This is a bit of an aside, but I feel like a female Cap would be totally in line with the story of Captain America. After all, Steve Rogers doesn't become Captain America because he's totally suited to be a heroic American super-soldier; he gets to be the guinea pig because he's completely unsuited to it. Pre-Super Soldier Serum, he's 4F. It's not just that if he didn't get picked by Dr. Erskine, he'd be one more grunt with a helmet and a rifle; absent the experiments he doesn't get to be in the Army at all.

And I don't think it would even be a challenge to draw a straight line from that idea, to having a female Captain America, and making it a compelling idea in the process. Stephanie Rogers wants to fight the Nazis, too, and she's at least as brave as any of the men lining up to enlist, but she'll never be allowed to -- partly because she's a weak and sickly young woman, but mostly because she's a woman. So when Dr. Erskine needs a test subject for his dangerous, and possibly fatal, experiments, she's quick to volunteer, and he's quick to accept. Because if his experiments kill someone who wasn't going to fight anyway, it doesn't hurt the fight against the Nazis -- and if his experiment works, then they'll be cranking out battalions of super soldiers in no time, and the marginal cost of having tested it on a non-combatant is pretty close to zero.

And she knows it, too. She doesn't expect to be anything other than a guinea pig, but she's willing to risk her life, because if this is the only way her country will allow her to help beat fascism, then by God that's what she's going to do. When it works, and she turns out to be the only one there'll ever be, she's going to have a very similar experience to Movie Cap, where the Army just wants to send her on morale tours and raise money selling war bonds and she has to defy her own government to punch out the SS.

I think it would totally work. And kick ass.

[ixokai]

@autumn I find your argument compelling, tbh. I'd vote yes on the app based on that reasoning.

[Ganymede]

@ixokai said in FCs on Comic MUs:

And no we aren't really putting limits on gender-swaps or sexualities except there's some things that just don't make sense. Someone would have to explain how a FemCap was in a super-soldier program when there were no female soldiers. I'm not saying its impossible but that would need to be worked out.

And, see, you just eliminated an entire line of pointless commentary.

Count me in. No, I'm not going to be Stephanie Rogers.

[TNP]

@ixokai said in FCs on Comic MUs:

@autumn I find your argument compelling, tbh. I'd vote yes on the app based on that reasoning.

So would I.

And yes, I was using hyperbole when I told Tempest that woman should be barefoot and pregnant. Though if I recall right, I'm pretty sure I did say 'many still think that...

[Lotherio]

@autumn

... forced into the USO show, alongside Bing Crosby. You're first move is whacking Bing for the treatment of his children.

[Ghost]

@lotherio By whack, though, please don't kill.

Without Bing we would have never had Tasha Yar

[The Tree of Woe]

@ixokai I do believe the attitude and expectations of staff sets the tone for the whole game. It's one of the reasons why I push Dystopia Rising's codes of conduct so hard -- the behavior of the people running that event was the most empathetic I have ever seen from people running a LARP and everything about the event reflected it, from the behavior of the players to the number of women and minorities who legged it out to the sticks to participate in the LARP, which was set right in the heart of lily-white Western New York (Dansville).

No shit.