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    • Tinuviel
      Tinuviel last edited by

      Ugh, I have a mild peeve today.

      In the culinary world, there are only one set of 'stars' that actually count for everyone. Michelin stars. And the maximum number awarded is three.

      So if you say your restaurant has five stars, you're being intentionally disingenuous. It may even be true, that some magazine or tabloid awarded your restaurant that many stars in a review - but you know perfectly well what a star-rated restaurant means. Stop that.

      He/Him

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      • Auspice
        Auspice @Tinuviel last edited by

        @tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

        Ugh, I have a mild peeve today.

        In the culinary world, there are only one set of 'stars' that actually count for everyone. Michelin stars. And the maximum number awarded is three.

        So if you say your restaurant has five stars, you're being intentionally disingenuous. It may even be true, that some magazine or tabloid awarded your restaurant that many stars in a review - but you know perfectly well what a star-rated restaurant means. Stop that.

        But my mommy gave then to me!

        Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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          Ortallus Banned @Tinuviel last edited by

          @tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

          Ugh, I have a mild peeve today.

          In the culinary world, there are only one set of 'stars' that actually count for everyone. Michelin stars. And the maximum number awarded is three.

          So if you say your restaurant has five stars, you're being intentionally disingenuous. It may even be true, that some magazine or tabloid awarded your restaurant that many stars in a review - but you know perfectly well what a star-rated restaurant means. Stop that.

          I've always been under the impression that it's fine dining restaurants that Michelin focuses on. So while La Snoot might be all over their second Michelin Star, Joe's Diner getting 5 stars on Yelp is about as good as it's going to get.

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          • Tinuviel
            Tinuviel @Ortallus last edited by

            @ortallus said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

            @tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

            Ugh, I have a mild peeve today.

            In the culinary world, there are only one set of 'stars' that actually count for everyone. Michelin stars. And the maximum number awarded is three.

            So if you say your restaurant has five stars, you're being intentionally disingenuous. It may even be true, that some magazine or tabloid awarded your restaurant that many stars in a review - but you know perfectly well what a star-rated restaurant means. Stop that.

            I've always been under the impression that it's fine dining restaurants that Michelin focuses on. So while La Snoot might be all over their second Michelin Star, Joe's Diner getting 5 stars on Yelp is about as good as it's going to get.

            That doesn't at all change what I said.

            Michelin don't solely focus on 'fine dining', though when I say the word restaurant, that's generally what I mean. If it is an unqualified statement, as in "five-star restaurant" then it is misleading.

            He/Him

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              Ortallus Banned last edited by

              "The term "Michelin Star" is a hallmark of fine dining quality with restaurants around the world proudly promoting their Michelin Star status."

              https://www.tripsavvy.com/about-michelin-stars-1329159

              "Restaurants covet these stars because the vast majority of restaurants receive no stars at all. For example, the Michelin Guide to Chicago 2014 includes almost 500 restaurants. Only one restaurant received three stars, four restaurants received two stars, and 20 restaurants received one star."

              So in Chicago, out of their almost 500 restaurants, only 25 received stars at all. That means only about 5% of restaurants in Chicago have any stars.

              I worked in restaurants for over 10 years, and none of them were Michelin star restaurants, and nobody in those restaurants cared or thought about Michelin stars. Hell, if I've ever been to a restaurant with Michelin stars, I didn't know it.

              I think you're vastly overestimating the important of Michelin stars to the average restaurant, and saying "the only stars that count for everyone are Michelin stars" is a personal preference for you, not an objective fact. The NYT uses a 4 star rating system. Seattle Times uses a star system. I don't think claiming "We're a 5 star restaurant" is misleading, or meant to be misleading. If they don't specifically say, "We've got X# of Michelin stars" then they're talking about something else.

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              • Tinuviel
                Tinuviel @Ortallus last edited by

                @ortallus said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                I think you're vastly overestimating the important of Michelin stars to the average restaurant

                I think you're vastly underestimating what I consider to be a restaurant. As I did, specifically, state: I was talking about fine dining restaurants. And I really don't give a damn about American anything.

                He/Him

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                • Ganymede
                  Ganymede Admin @Tinuviel last edited by Ganymede

                  @tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                  I think you're vastly underestimating what I consider to be a restaurant. As I did, specifically, state: I was talking about fine dining restaurants. And I really don't give a damn about American anything.

                  You are aware that fine dining restaurants get rated by people on Yelp, or in papers? And you are also aware that there are really good restaurants out there that aren't Michelin-rated? Or Zagat-rated?

                  A local chef around here, who won the James Beard Foundation award, opened up a restaurant that wasn't Michelin-rated, but was better than a lot of fine dining, Michelin-rated establishments I've been to in Europe. I'll take her restaurant over Michelin-rated restaurants in New York.

                  That aside, around these parts (and North America, in general), a five-star restaurant isn't supposed to be Michelin-rated. If a restaurant is a one-star Michelin-rated restaurant, it's probably one of the better ones in the area, and a foodie would know that. And the establishment would be ranting about how it is a one-star Michelin-rated joint, for damn sure. Things are damned albatrosses around here.

                  You may not give a damn, but that's just you, dude. Remember that.

                  “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                  • Tinuviel
                    Tinuviel @Ganymede last edited by

                    @ganymede said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                    but that's just you, dude.

                    Yeah, almost like that's why it was a peeve and not a serious issue.

                    He/Him

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                    • Ganymede
                      Ganymede Admin @Tinuviel last edited by

                      @tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                      Yeah, almost like that's why it was a peeve and not a serious issue.

                      Yeah, your peeve is stupid.

                      In other news, my damn country is still undergoing a partial government fucking shutdown, so I need to shut the fuck up.

                      “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                      • Tinuviel
                        Tinuviel @Ganymede last edited by

                        @ganymede said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                        Yeah, your peeve is stupid.

                        Only for people of a different culture. And the United States is a very, very different culture.

                        He/Him

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                        • Arkandel
                          Arkandel Admin @Tinuviel last edited by

                          Frankly I think it depends on what you're looking for.

                          For example I don't tend to care about 'quality' restaurants. I look for cleanness, ease of access (street parking in Toronto tends to get adventurous), decent service and that one plate I really like. I don't often go for variety; if I find something I rate 8/10 it's going to be my go-to from that point forward.

                          Oh, and music. If it exists it has to not get on my nerves; for example there's a pretty decent Indian place near my house that plays this hellish new-age music on repeat and argh.

                          Other stuff matter, too. For example put a large screen with an NBA game on somewhere in my line of sight and you got my interest.

                          Very few of those are factors that win awards but the stomach wants what the stomach wants.

                          • He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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                          • Alamias
                            Alamias @Ganymede last edited by

                            @ganymede I'm right there with you with the feeling like I am drowning.

                            My triggers are the inability to sleep more than 2 to 3 hours a night no matter what I do/sleep aids I try, a wife that has severe depression herself whose meds are not working so has woken me up from the sleep I have been able to get with talk of 'not being around anymore', and a ton of financial debt that I see no way to get out of for decades.

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                            • Thenomain
                              Thenomain last edited by

                              Because I cannot express my frustrations enough, this quote from Douglas Adams will have to do:

                              “The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.

                              To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.

                              To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

                              To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem.

                              And so this is the situation we find: a succession of Galactic Presidents who so much enjoy the fun and palaver of being in power that they very rarely notice that they’re not. And somewhere in the shadows behind them—who? Who can possibly rule if no one who wants to do it can be allowed to?”

                              “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
                              ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

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                                Paris @Thenomain last edited by

                                @thenomain There have been a number of authority figures who weren't evil or completely corrupt, though. You can look at people's voting records, how they've treated people, who their enemies are, causes they've championed and did the actual work on, etc.

                                Ambition is only a problem, imo, if it's coupled with a lack of compassion (and similar emotions).

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                                • Thenomain
                                  Thenomain @Paris last edited by

                                  @paris

                                  I'm not even talking about the world at large. I'm talking about my place in it.

                                  “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
                                  ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

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                                  • mietze
                                    mietze last edited by mietze

                                    If you want to be a CEO, a board member of something (volunteer or otherwise), or in any position of having some kind of control (even if it's largely delusional on your part) like teachers, social workers, cops, military command officers, ect)...you have to be a little bit of an asshole. Hopefully not a huge one, I've met people in all of the above who only were wee little assholes and much more comprised of awesomeness and compassion and the like, but the assholely was definitely there. I think it's just in the nature of what you have to do.

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                                    • Tyche
                                      Tyche Banned @mietze last edited by

                                      @mietze Confidence and competence is often confused with being an asshole.

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                                      • mietze
                                        mietze last edited by

                                        Nah you need the asshole part too, a bit.

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                                        • Thenomain
                                          Thenomain @mietze last edited by

                                          @mietze said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                                          Nah you need the asshole part too, a bit.

                                          Says every successful and popular Mu* in the last two decades.

                                          “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
                                          ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

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                                          • Auspice
                                            Auspice last edited by

                                            My boss fucking abuses power.

                                            He's a slob as I've mentioned before. He's made our newest hire clean up after him.
                                            Now he's going to have the person working Saturday put down the carpet tiles that we got in for the new room we moved into.

                                            None of this is shit we should be doing. The first is shit he should do himself. We clean up after ourselves and as a team in general (we get pizza for the team? we clean as a team) and the second is something the office should hire someone to do, not add on to someone's tasks. But he will laugh and joke all 'Hey, it'll be slow anyway, so you might as well have something to do.'

                                            No, that's not how shit works.

                                            And when I approached him again about my need to move to full-time on this project (since my other one is ending at the end of this month), his answer was 'You said you didn't want to.' No I fucking didn't. We had a long talk about how I NEED the hours and PLEASE talk to R (client manager) about getting me those hours.

                                            I made fucking sure I confronted him while a Sr. Project Manager was present so that he couldn't pull his bullshit 'No you never said that' shit. This man lies. And lies. And lies. And never takes responsibility. (Every time we confront him on something -- "You didn't tell me about..." "You keep forgetting to check the team chat..." etc -- it's "No I didn't." "No I don't." "I told you last week!" even if other teammates back us up.)

                                            He's started trying to turn the team against each other because we have all been united against him.

                                            Me and the other woman on the team get along great and because our shifts almost never overlap, we rarely see each other.

                                            He began a rumor that she doesn't like me and constantly complains about me, which completely blindsided me because before our schedules were more divided, we had gotten along fantastic! We both love to bake, we knit, we're kinda nerdy, etc... so it was sort of painful to hear! I was a little anxious the next I saw her, but she was completely cool and we now (office got shuffled around a bit) have desks next to each other and we're getting along great (when we see each other)...

                                            ...and I realize he was just trying to get us ("cuz women") to snipe at each other.

                                            I'm getting fucking sick of it. I'm about to go into full plotting gear to walk him into a trap with the client so the client wants to fire him because I know my company is hesitant af to fire anyone. Ever. But if a client says they want someone gone? That person is gone in a heartbeat.

                                            Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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