Kushiel's Debut
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@BigDaddyAmin said:
Not a lot of TS? Aren't there people who play courtesans?
She did not say not a lot of TS just not more so then anywhere else.
I played there for a bit have have to agree, I mean TS is not hard to find if that is what you are seeking but I could say that exact same thing about any mush I have logged on to. -
@Misadventure said:
The only thing worse than being done, is not being done.
flees from Oscar Wilde
As I read it, the courtesans are closer to Venetian courtesans. They sell sex with companionship. The particular flavors depends on the House they belong to. However, the main character for the first three (?) is a masochistic avatar. But everyone has a tattoo that when completed is their freedom to stay with the House or go do something else.
Yeah, its in that vein. The courtesans are actually part of the religion. One of the Angels that left heaven to follow the Son-of-Jesus that @Big-Daddy-Amin mentioned is an Angel of love/passion/sexing it up? So the courtesans are there to pay tribute to her sort of and each House of them has their own way of doing so. They are all very fancy and considered 'holy' and it is interesting. We tried for a while to stir up more theological debates and competition between them, but we've always had way more nobles than courtesans so it was hard to get it going very far.
I think you could make a group, ignore everyone else, go to a place where there are no others, and set up your own (in theme) adventures. Sadly they are more medieval than swashbuckling in the books, though the KD setting has moved on by a few centuries.
You could do that, or something like it if you wanted! There have been pirates pillaging (bad NPC ones) but no one thus far has wanted to try going out to hunt them down or anything. (It would have to be off main grid anyway, since the city where the action is is landlocked) Landlocked shenanigans are also encouraged!
I think I'd rather try 7Th Sea again, but I feel the need to swash about with my buckler.
I can appreciate that fully. John Wick games are sweet. I wish there was a Houses of the Blooded MUSH but that would probably be completely impossible given the amount of co-operation it requires.
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@ThatGuyThere You should come back and do the RPs. I want people for the families of my chars.
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@Gingerlily wait, pirates are assaulting a land locked city? So let me get this straight, pirates which sail on ships and attack other ships are attacking a land locked city, which means there is no sea for pirates to terrorize. Sure, OK.
In other news, the lack of naval rumors makes more sense now. Can't very well assault the pirate menace of a land locked city with a ship.
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No silly, the main RP hub is the land locked city, which while based on not really landlocked Paris, is landlocked. The pirates are off one of the coasts. Personally I think the players should be the pirates, led by a wronged noble heir. Or maybe Frederick. Dammit now I am back to 7Th Sea, and have moved on to Victoriana. A rollicking band of pirates we.
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The City of Elua, the game's capital city and the main grid. (The major city in the books also, the capital of Faux Sexy Angel France if you will) actually works out to be more like Lyon. They did add a river that goes to it, but I don't know that much about pirate battle by river. Maybe it works! Does it? The coast is a bit away though.
And yeah, if you were doing Navy as your thing there wasn't much going on the last few months. I think there will be if the reciprocal 'help us with the war in Carthage' deal that the d'Angelines did with Aragonia comes around, but that is a whole war away! Sorry
. We could have figured out some pirate stuff for you if you wanted to go off grid a bit though! To be honest Skaldia handles most of the mass combat/war stories at least so far as nitty gritty details. I am more into the parts with ambassadors cutting deals and going back on them and that kind of thing. We all have our strong suits. Supposedly. -
@icanbeyourmuse
I appreciate the sentiment but I honestly do not have the time to add a character to the mix i am playing right now.Edit to add, Quite a bit of real world piracy was done along the rivers of Europe. Most notably that of the Vikings but also among the groups that followed. The ocean piracy of the Pirates of the Caribbean and such happened and have quite along Golden Age but for most of history pirates have mainly been a rivers and coasts thing.
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@Alzie said:
@Gingerlily wait, pirates are assaulting a land locked city? So let me get this straight, pirates which sail on ships and attack other ships are attacking a land locked city, which means there is no sea for pirates to terrorize. Sure, OK.
Oh oops I missed this part also. Pirates have attacked boats sailing out of the country from ports that are not the landlocked city that is the main grid. So if people wanted to go together on a pirate fighting boat that was not on the main grid, they could. A side quest! Or if people wanted to plan together and send their minions from their lands out to do this and not miss out on hanging out on the main grid, also a thing they could do. If they wished to rp about pirates. I hope that made more sense.
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@ThatGuyThere said:
@icanbeyourmuse
I appreciate the sentiment but I honestly do not have the time to add a character to the mix i am playing right now.Edit to add, Quite a bit of real world piracy was done along the rivers of Europe. Most notably that of the Vikings but also among the groups that followed. The ocean piracy of the Pirates of the Caribbean and such happened and have quite along Golden Age but for most of history pirates have mainly been a rivers and coasts thing.
I did not know that! Okay SO if people really want some kind of pirate plot and wish for pirates to sail down the river into the city and...pillage, then we can discuss this! You'll have to bring me your knowledge of river pirates but I am game for learning new things.
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Gingerlily makes a 7Th Sea game.
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It seems silly to frame it in reference to only the capital city when there are several other cities on grid they could be assaulting, many of which have ports as their main staples. In any case, I figured that navy would be a hit and miss scenario, much like military, so didn't just rely on those. Trading and Ambassadorial pursuits were also kind of dead at the time.
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Most things are dead in the water unless there are stakes to be won or lost. Prestige, mercantile power, the ability to pressure groups with trade or warfare.
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I can appreciate both of those things. I think lines got cross when we were talking about framing things in reference to the capital city. People are in the capital city, but they are there getting news about what is happening in other places...the provinces they hold lands in or rule outright. If trading and ambassadorial pursuits were dead they don't have to be...and some people -were- engaging in those things. Sometimes its a question of who you play with and what they want to play and whether it is what you want to play, and we -do- try to help people find like minded others. I don't pretend it always works perfectly though, or that at all times there will always be someone who wants to do what a given player wants to.
There are stakes to be won or lost basically just as @Misadventure described. These last couple of pages we've talked a lot about things with foreign powers but that's not even really the focus. The 'Game of Houses' as they called it in the books is...gaining power for your family if you are loyal to them, or just yourself if you are not...that is what is there to work on day to day if you aren't engaged in some larger staff run 'We are having a foreign war' or 'Solve the mystery of the supernatural bond having severed with the Angels'. The stuff people can do with one another, without staff involved at all. 'Gentle' PvP maybe, since it rarely leads to death/maiming but can. Is it always happening? There are always -some- players sending in reports of their elaborate plots with/against one another...but I know perfectly well it isn't what everyone is up to. Those who have engaged in the game that way have won, and lost stakes, whether high or mild.
Other players will want to do other things, and I want to let them do those things, I'm not going to tell them what kind of fun to have. I think for some people this is their 'period soap' that they fluff out on when the are not being Vampire-Werewolf-Other and that's okay too. I'd like a larger group of people who want to dig deeper, but beyond the 'offer it and hope for engagement' I don't have a strategy for making it happen.
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@Gingerlily Yes people tend to gravitate towards the capital city, but let's not pretend it is the only place people RP. It's not even the only place represented on grid. Even my small city was represented on grid. So 'Everyone is in the capital city' seems like a cheap reflection. You also seem to be keen on quietly stepping around the issue as presented. You say 'people are doing ambassadorial things,' yes they are with skaldia, but don't bring up the giant NPC post that made it illegal to do those things. You say 'rp with others' but don't address that people are telling you they tried and were shut out. I'm not entirely sure what your position is on the game, but dodging legitimate concerns seems counter-productive. I sent in plenty of jobs and goals when I played, I just didn't enjoy playing roll the dice with myself after my avenues got closed by staff of all people. Even if I understand the reasoning behind it, it still struck me as counter productive to game health for staff to make people not want to RP knowing that plenty of people were banking on that particular avenue.
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@Alzie said:
@Gingerlily Yes people tend to gravitate towards the capital city, but let's not pretend it is the only place people RP. It's not even the only place represented on grid. Even my small city was represented on grid. So 'Everyone is in the capital city' seems like a cheap reflection. You also seem to be keen on quietly stepping around the issue as presented. You say 'people are doing ambassadorial things,' yes they are with skaldia, but don't bring up the giant NPC post that made it illegal to do those things. You say 'rp with others' but don't address that people are telling you they tried and were shut out. I'm not entirely sure what your position is on the game, but dodging legitimate concerns seems counter-productive. I sent in plenty of jobs and goals when I played, I just didn't enjoy playing roll the dice with myself after my avenues got closed by staff of all people. Even if I understand the reasoning behind it, it still struck me as counter productive to game health for staff to make people not want to RP knowing that plenty of people were banking on that particular avenue.
Honestly, I'm not intentionally dodging your legitimate concerns. I thought I'd addressed them but it's possible I mistook what they were. I don't know who you played, or what avenues you referred to getting closed by an NPC post, so I can't address them in a more direct manner than just trying to explain in general terms what the theme was and what was available. If you'd like to discuss it more I'm happy to chat in the chat thing though. I promise I am not trying to gloss over anything or dodge the topic you are interested in or anything of the sort.
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I'm recruiting again!
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Decided posting my criticism here isn't worth it.
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"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin I made a whole multi paragraph post about it but then decided to delete it. I think some of the complaints Alzie made touch superficially on the points I've made but I'll try addressing them directly to the people involved instead of here first. Y'know, just to be courteous.
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Okay! Since this is an add thread.. I am prodding to see if I can get someone to take Jasmine's twin sister. They are both of the Alyssum House (perpetual innocents). Jasmine is the bolder of the two and Naia likely has at least 1 person lined up who will pay out her marque, giving the Alyssum twins a rather adorable advantage of having paid their marque out in less than a year. Jasmine and Naia can oft talk just by looking at each other. As I have a terrible memory I would not even notice the difference in mannerisms so you don't have to worry about playing her as her original player did. I am happy to chat it out! So, feel free to page me or IM me here! I got all sorts of people rather excited to have a Naia and Jasmien pair.
PS. yes, they are a pair of hookers.
