Sexuality: IC and OOC
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@Cobaltasaurus said in Sexuality: IC and OOC:
I don't think @Quinn was being literal about the ball scratch thing, my dudes. I think it was an easy example of why it's difficult for her to play male characters and why she doesn't. Saying "well just don't pose ball scratching" and then "well just play a character who happens to be male/female/nonbinary/a lamp and not a character who is male/female/nonbinary/a lamp" is a little bit dismissive of her perspective...
But it could also be damaging to the portrayal of those types of characters. Especially if you take away the gender part and instead insert race/ethnicity or sexuality. If you are a white person playing a POC on a game and you don't give any thought to who that person's background has effected them you might find yourself walking straight into stereotypes.
Eh, I wasn't trying to be dismissive of her perspective; I was just offering my perspective.
Gotta be honest here? I think we could (or should) expect greater accuracy from professionals (writers, politicians, show-runners, public figures), but it's also important to remember that for the most part the people in this hobby are people who just got off of work from Arby's, have sore feet, and wanna eat pizza and creatively roleplay as space wizards, gothy elf-fae coffee house owners, and Decepticons.
It's a best effort service and casual missteps arent going to alter the way things are described on CNN, so the bar for "Are people being cool about it when we say HEY THATS KIND OF OFFENSIVE TO ME" should be higher than the bar for preferred noun accuracy and/or entire social awareness factor; especially when a player from Norway has a different social life than a player from Florida.
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Apropos of nothing, I don't think I've even seen anybody, male or female, properly (and probably hilariously) RP the indecision, triumph and relief of well-executed stealthy ball scratch that you manage to make look like anything else and thus not look like a barbarian in mixed company. Hard to pull off in real life, more so in text.
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@Bad-at-Lurking Or I mean the little butt wiggle, the wild groping at your butt, and the final despair when you decide you'll just look like a pervert b/c your panties have rolled all the way down your butt and now are pooled at the crotch of your pants and must be fixed and there is literally no bathroom for a mile away so into your pants go your hands as you try to pull your underwear back up as fast as you can?
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Challenge accepted y'all.
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@check dexterity + stealth or charm + manipulation OR command + seduction :waggly eyebrows:
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If a ball scratch is seduction SOMETHING IS WRONG.
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@Cobaltasaurus said in Sexuality: IC and OOC:
I don't think @Quinn was being literal about the ball scratch thing, my dudes. I think it was an easy example of why it's difficult for her to play male characters and why she doesn't. Saying "well just don't pose ball scratching" and then "well just play a character who happens to be male/female/nonbinary/a lamp and not a character who is male/female/nonbinary/a lamp" is a little bit dismissive of her perspective...
But it could also be damaging to the portrayal of those types of characters. Especially if you take away the gender part and instead insert race/ethnicity or sexuality. If you are a white person playing a POC on a game and you don't give any thought to who that person's background has effected them you might find yourself walking straight into stereotypes.
Depending on what setting you're playing and the specific concept you want to play there may be additional complexities however my reading of Quinns post is that for most MUSHes and for just the purpose of playing a male character, she's overthinking it. If you're not comfortable playing a male character but want to give it a try, you can go a really long way by simply playing it the same way you would your female character with all obvious female references removed. Might there be a risk the character comes across as very effeminate? Maybe but I don't think that's offensive to anyone and there's plenty of room in most settings for less manly men. In the same way if you're not comfortable playing female characters but want to try, in most settings you get a lot of mileage from playing badass warrior women.
That's not to say that gender/sexuality/ethnicity etc should be ignored. Just that when you're just getting started you get really far by applying the 'less is more' principle and you can add nuances as you go along and get more comfortable. If your very first male concept is the manliest man who ever manned chances are you're not going to get a great character out of it (Although we had a woman who played that concept on a previous game we played and she was pretty great).
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@Cobaltasaurus AUGH About 1 in 5 of my underwear does this, there are just a few pairs that will ROLL THEMSELVES DOWN MY BODY FOR NO REASON. So I'll be walking in the grocery store and my underwear is just peeling itself down the inside of my pants and I'm trying to surreptitiously fix it by shoving my arm down my pants in the middle of an aisle hoping no one rounds the corner on this space fo 10 seconds....
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@Wretched said in Sexuality: IC and OOC:
@Cobaltasaurus AUGH About 1 in 5 of my underwear does this, there are just a few pairs that will ROLL THEMSELVES DOWN MY BODY FOR NO REASON. So I'll be walking in the grocery store and my underwear is just peeling itself down the inside of my pants and I'm trying to surreptitiously fix it by shoving my arm down my pants in the middle of an aisle hoping no one rounds the corner on this space fo 10 seconds....
99% of my underwear. ....until I started wearing thongs recently. Which are apparently magic. insert shrug emoji All my normal underwear? 99% of it will have rolled itself down my ass like they're living entities that hate my butt.
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@Cobaltasaurus said in Sexuality: IC and OOC:
@Wretched said in Sexuality: IC and OOC:
@Cobaltasaurus AUGH About 1 in 5 of my underwear does this, there are just a few pairs that will ROLL THEMSELVES DOWN MY BODY FOR NO REASON. So I'll be walking in the grocery store and my underwear is just peeling itself down the inside of my pants and I'm trying to surreptitiously fix it by shoving my arm down my pants in the middle of an aisle hoping no one rounds the corner on this space fo 10 seconds....
99% of my underwear. ....until I started wearing thongs recently. Which are apparently magic. insert shrug emoji All my normal underwear? 99% of it will have rolled itself down my ass like they're living entities that hate my butt.
I told someone years ago that thongs are like magic. Jeans fit better. There's less rolling (for me it's around my belly: doesn't matter what size they are). I got crazy looks for being an overweight girl suggesting thongs but ffs having less bunching and rolling is win.
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Yo, tip for the non-thong wearers. Brazilian-style boxer briefs by Papi are the shit. My SO loves them, they're comfy as hell, everything stays in place, and they're way more interesting than traditional boxer briefs.
Also, probably shouldn't Google Papi underwear products at work. They also make a lot of mens thongs, jockstraps, etc and I know a lot of buddies of mine in the gay community are all about this brand. You don't want Human Resources reviewing that Google Image search.
I took a pointer from my gay buddies on men's underwear and it's been good to me.
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I mean, if you're worried about things looking good and staying in place, I recommend a style more like this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H2XRTDS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1B192TXEW4HD&psc=1
Everything has a specific, designated place and they're unbelievably comfortable, despite initial appearances.
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@Derp I just ordered a pack, will report back.
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Also, on topic?
I think I've said this before, but bonus points to anyone roleplaying a male (with the piping) who suddenly sits down, grunts, freezes in place, then breathes out slowly.
Sitting on your testicles happens way more (IMO) than crotch adjustments, and its 10x less funny to experience but 100x more funny to witness.
- SIT DOWN.
"Umppff."
"Whats wrong?"
"Nothing...nothing..."
- SIT DOWN.
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I have to say the big upside of this thread for me is just the stuff I've ever never experienced or been aware occurs for the other gender.
Any other subtle clues you're 'doing it right' ladies and gentleman?
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Boob sweat.
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I can attest to...
- When people act like they're going to punch me in the nads so I suck in my belly super quick and flinch to avoid it, but even if they don't hit it still hurts because the muscles are all connected. That sudden muscle spasm aches that whole area from belly button to groin.
- I know some men who complain about sitting on the toilet because they teabag the toilet water.
- I can't unhear the time that Sarah Silverman said that dicks smell "...like Benson and Hedges cigarettes and beef brisket"
- SwampAss can fight BoobSweat to a stalemate.
I have also learned in my travels the horror that some women have when sneezing on their periods. I have come to recognize the post sneeze "Oh shit" moment and have become quite good at appearing to not notice it.
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ALSO, the whole "Sitting on your nads" thing?
Getting into a car is THREAT LEVEL: MIDNIGHT for that.
For those with you that don't have that plumbing I guaran-fuckin-tee you that all of those actors from John Wick, Fast&Furious, Dukes of Hazard, TJ Hooker who have had to film rushing to get into a car or sliiiiiiiiiding across the hood of a car have absolutely sat on their junk.
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The chairs at work can almost accommodate the boys. Almost! Right up until the moment I cough or sneeze, which has the approximate effect of a jackhammer to the groin, and folks in the open office looking at me while I try not to rub the affected area.
(Not that it would help anything.)
Also added for bonus points: that sneaky little check when you suspect that your fly might be open. Just adjusting my belt or something?
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Hahaha god...why am I doing this?
ALSO: Punching a penis doesnt hurt someone with a penis. The penis is remarkably elastic. It has about the same result as punching a stress ball that will squish in then expand back to normal. The dick is mostly immune to most civilian grade blunt trauma. I mean, sure, no one wants a sledgehammer coming down on it against a concrete slab because there is skin and blood and tubing, but a slap or a punch or a roundhouse kick to it? PFFT. Whatevs. Most people with penises dont worry about their dick getting punched. Cut off? Yes. Punched? Nasomuch.
The nads behind the penis that often receive the full weight of a boot kicking the penis into the nads is what men fear.
When we jump it's not because of the penis but because it's next door neighbor don't want the collateral damage.
I'm sharing this because my SO assumed the penis feels a lot of that pain and I had to explain. Nope. It's totally designed for full-contact physical sports which is why the part that does feel the pain rides shotgun.