It's much like writing a book. You write a book so that it is read and enjoyed - end of purpose. But to that end you also, unconsciously perhaps, want that book to be good and appealing enough to be picked over others. So there is competition for resources, but one isn't really being competitive outside of just writing a good book.
Personally I think having another, similar-but-different game in a niche close to yours is deeply useful for any game. Sometimes a player is fine but just doesn't... "fit". It's stylistic. Having more options to choose from is better for the player and it's also better for you. It's especially nice if the other game exists and is nice and not a trash fire so you can feel not at all bad about saying "why don't you try X game?"
@krmbm said in The Game Game:
Thanks for explaining how I'm obviously wrong and/or lying about how I feel about my game and other open games.
Also @krmbm on the same damn page even:
Well, you're wrong.
If you're going to act all offended that someone is saying you're "obviously wrong" when it comes to how you think and feel about games, the least you can do is not say someone is obviously wrong about how they think and feel about games just a few posts before that.
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
@saosmash I mean not only is it healthy for that but like - think of how Arx for example would be if there were a few other L&L games that satisfied what some people are looking for. You could have your super hyper political L&L game over there, your "let's make babies" L&L game over here, and Arx right where it is with nobody trying to make Arx ALL THE THINGS because it's not exactly what they're looking for.
It just takes the pressure off of admin, imo.
I think some of the most unhealthy game runners I've seen tend to be the ones that are very comparative of their game to others. (Which is why I think it is good to be very careful and deliberate about starting a new game because you hate another, vs having an idea you'd like to explore other than "I hate the current poopyheads over there." I mean the former is fine as long as you have the latter.) I wonder if the reason why so many newish games fold before opening or shortly afterwards is because of the very negative tone that discord or people hanging out oocly on the unopened place or other chat/brainstorm formats can take on that kind of sour things before they even start.
If you view everything as a competition then certainly you'll find it! I really like it when game runners/developers have a nice solid idea of what THEY want and create it and gently or not so gently put in very firm boundaries about that vision's moveability due to player desires. Those environments have seemed far healthier than the ones where people are so focused on doing "it" better than anyone else or the last staff/runner that hurt them that they lose track of what it was that THEY wanted to be doing.
But I will say it again, it is intimidating to say no, especially here, and I wish more people appreciated that.
@Derp Nice job citing the quotes without the context that differentiates them.
What I always want as a player is //variety//, as it makes it a lot easier for me to mentally split my time. Which is really hit and miss, as popular genres seem to come and go in waves (or based on what kind of code is easily and readily available).
@Derp You totally exposed me. Good job. \o/
@saosmash said in The Game Game:
@Derp Nice job citing the quotes without the context that differentiates them.
If I believed there was truly context that differentiated them, rather than pretext, I would not have cited them.
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
@Derp Changing what someone has said in order to make their argument comport with your belief is so lazy an argument it is almost, almost not worth pointing out.
@Apos said in The Game Game:
What happens with more games I find is people are just more likely to stick in the hobby and eventually return to one game or another as their interest waxes and wanes.
agree 110% with this. when i wasn't playing on arx, but there was no arx game to fill that niche? i bleeped out of the hobby. i've come back, a bit, but i've never come back to MU*ing in quite the same way as i did before.
because i was forced to get other hobbies and other friends. now people ping me to play video games and do other shit with them, and i just have never hooked back into the same active player i was before.
would that have happened if there was a game that i could have replaced arx with at the time? idk.
eta: also apos said it and he's a head wiz of a game with 200+ players. so it can't be false.
I haven't played any other genres in a while but, at least with supers, you have many of the same players playing on multiple supers games. Sometimes they play as different characters, sometimes the same exact one. Regardless, having a character on every supers game currently running is not unusual. Variety is the spice of life and all that.
It's much like writing a book. You write a book so that it is read and enjoyed - end of purpose. But to that end you also, unconsciously perhaps, want that book to be good and appealing enough to be picked over others. So there is competition for resources, but one isn't really being competitive outside of just writing a good book.
