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    • Ganymede
      Ganymede Admin last edited by

      I really enjoyed binging The Age of Samurai on Netflix. Then again, I love dramatized versions of historical events with actual professors delivering the story.

      How delightfully sordid! Date Masamune is still the bestest.

      “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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        lordbelh @Ganymede last edited by lordbelh

        @ganymede I really liked it, even if the katana fetishizing at the start was a bit cringe. Watched an episode an evening until it was all done. Wouldn't have minded more.

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        • Ganymede
          Ganymede Admin @lordbelh last edited by

          @lordbelh

          I just think it is a fascinating history. I'd love to see them do something about Britain ca. 56 to 1066 A.D.

          “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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            insomniac7809 last edited by insomniac7809

            So in recognition of goddamn everyone telling me I needed to, here and elsewhere, I finally sat down and watched She-Ra.

            And yes, it was very, very good. I felt a lot of emotions about princesses with rainbow powers and ridiculous goofy names.

            (seriously Bo or Beau would still be a pun)

            My only quibble would be that... well, people were making comparisons with AtLA above, and in both of them I just felt like they would have been better with a full episode of denouement after the climactic confrontation. Just, with a cast this sprawling and so many emotional threads going the length of the series, I feel like they deserved a full episode's worth of resolution.

            But overall, great characters, great conflicts, some remarkably heavy stuff while still being appropriate for children. May, y'know, have prompted a Single Manly Tear or two.

            Also really liked how it reframed some character traits in the main cast into character flaws that are usually presented as categorically heroic traits.

            ***=Spoiler***

            click to show

            Also, I feel ashamed that someone had to point out to me that Horde Prime was, like, so much fundie imagery. As presented by a queer woman who grew up in a fundamentalist household. I am very good at analysis dammit.

            Oh, and a few things that I still just find so very amusing. Brightmoon's dungeon. Entrapta's realization of which side she's on. Everyone's interpretations of Catra in the D&D epsidode. Bow's refusal to cover up his abs.

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              GreenFlashlight last edited by GreenFlashlight

              I don't know how to embed the image directly. https://twitter.com/SU_ggushi/status/1289095539682734080

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                • Ganymede
                  Ganymede Admin @insomniac7809 last edited by

                  @insomniac7809

                  To me, it is a watershed show against which other shows will be compared.

                  “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                    insomniac7809 @Ganymede last edited by

                    @ganymede

                    Legit.

                    I loved the show, too. I really did. And (having looked up some comments from the showrunner) I absolutely agree that it's for the best that they didn't end with a flash forward; the glimpse of maybe we got was more than enough.

                    Just... more of a quibble than anything, the ending being on my mind as, y'know, the last thing I saw...

                    ***=Finale talk***

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                    So, okay. Scorpia is the thing that bugged me a bit about the truncated denouement.

                    Just because her arc had her realizing how badly Catra had been treating her, and getting the self-respect to break it off and strike out on her own. For as much as she defined herself as a people-pleaser, and as bad as she had it for Wildcat, this was a big step for her.

                    I would have preferred to see a bit more than an immediate unconditional forgiveness the next time she saw Catra, although I admit it's in-character for her.

                    Kinda similar, if we'd had more than a sarcastic comment from Mermista about Hoardak.

                    Not saying in either case that they should have ended the arc on a downer note! Actually really like the idea that (again, from outside interviews with the showrunner) Hoardak goes to clean up Beast Island as community service, and Entrapta goes along with him. Just would've liked to see that in the actual show, and some more for Scorpia (whose development got frozen for a good bit of S5).

                    But these are, ultimately, just niggles that I was left with at the conclusion, and if they aren't going to delve into them, then the generally upbeat, accepting, and loving finale was the way to do it.

                    The plot was great, the animation was great, I really cared about the characters. The cyclical abuse theme running through the villain side is definitely something that manages to be heavy without being inappropriate for the target audience. Really, there's so much going on with the characters, and especially the Adora/Catra/Shadow Weaver dynamic.

                    They even managed an episode where they do the thing where the main character sees something's up and her friends think she's seeing things, and make it not just be pure secondhand embarrassment that I hate watching.

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                    • Arkandel
                      Arkandel Admin @insomniac7809 last edited by

                      The Falcon and the Winter Soldier is very, very good.

                      Right now the bar for Marvel's shows is very high. WandaVision ended on a great note and although their second premier TV show is a completely different beast than the first, it's excellent.

                      I love the chemistry between the two protagonists. It's convincing and often quite funny. The political undertones are also quite well done; in all these shades of gray even the villains have believable motives and it's easy to see how from their perspective they are the good guys.

                      So far it's going from strength to strength. Great job.

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                        buttercup @Arkandel last edited by

                        @arkandel I kinda dislike it so far.

                        There are some elements I like. But overall I loved WandaVision so much more I'm not sure the bar is achievable for me.

                        I prefer Daredevil, Punisher, and some of the other Marvel works. So far The Falcon and the Winter Soldier feels sidekick melodrama level to me.

                        Also I think my love for Invincible has made me more content then I should be with my super hero fill of greatness!

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                        • Sunny
                          Sunny last edited by

                          @buttercup said in Good TV:

                          Also I think my love for Invincible has made me more content then I should be with my super hero fill of greatness!

                          I love Invincible SO MUCH. I can't really do gore so it gets rough at moments, but gosh, the characters and storytelling are so good it keeps me watching despite my hangups.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yUYvyAY954

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                            Coin @Sunny last edited by

                            @sunny said in Good TV:

                            @buttercup said in Good TV:

                            Also I think my love for Invincible has made me more content then I should be with my super hero fill of greatness!

                            I love Invincible SO MUCH. I can't really do gore so it gets rough at moments, but gosh, the characters and storytelling are so good it keeps me watching despite my hangups.

                            I love it so much. The comic books is one of my favorites (definitely my favorite Kirkman property) and I am so happy so far with the result. Also it is a HILARIOUSLY star-studded cast.

                            "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                              Sunny @Coin last edited by

                              @coin

                              Yeah, I haven't read the comic, but what I've read ABOUT it says it's done pretty well with staying faithful to at least the tone and weight of it. Bodes well for some of the other properties the studio is working on.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yUYvyAY954

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                              • Arkandel
                                Arkandel Admin @buttercup last edited by

                                @buttercup said in Good TV:

                                So far The Falcon and the Winter Soldier feels sidekick melodrama level to me.

                                I can totally see that! For me what made the difference is how cleverly it was written to present the villains' point of view well.

                                ***=NSFW content***

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                                Baron Zemo has convictions - there was at least once he could have taken the super-soldier serum for himself against his principles and didn't. The new Captain America is just some regular flawed guy struggling to keep up in a world of metahumans and Gods. The Flag Smashers had a nearly utopian less populated world for a while (THANOS DID NOTHING WRONG) and then lost it.

                                What is it like to lose half the people in the world and then get them back overnight years later, on a global political and financial scale?

                                As for the heroes, Bucky has some issues, but I guess those definitely predated the series. 🙂

                                There are a lot of scenes drawing humor from the buddy-cop movie tropes for sure but for me it's the other stuff that's interesting since the movies kinda glossed over all of it.

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                                • Ganymede
                                  Ganymede Admin @Sunny last edited by

                                  @sunny said in Good TV:

                                  I love Invincible SO MUCH. I can't really do gore so it gets rough at moments, but gosh, the characters and storytelling are so good it keeps me watching despite my hangups.

                                  I'm really digging DC's Harley Quinn, if only because it is really gory. (Like when King Shark bites people in half.)

                                  But it's so hilariously vulgar that it's hard to take too seriously, and all of the decapitation and uber-violence only adds to its absurdity.

                                  Plus, like, Lake Bell is my totem Hollywood voice, so.

                                  chloe cat

                                  “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                                    Really enjoying Shadow and Bone on Netflix atm.

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                                      GreenFlashlight last edited by

                                      I just realized She-Ra and the Princesses of Power is a failed TV show because at no point did Catra get the zoomies.

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                                        Ortallus Banned last edited by

                                        Just finished Falcon & Winter Soldier. Really great IMO. Alas, time to cancel Disney+ until June 11th.

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                                          insomniac7809 @GreenFlashlight last edited by

                                          @greenflashlight said in Good TV:

                                          I just realized She-Ra and the Princesses of Power is a failed TV show because at no point did Catra get the zoomies.

                                          She does use her friends/subordinates/Kyle as furniture when she's looking to get around in a hurry.

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                                            Ortallus Banned last edited by

                                            Not my normal thing, but watching Horimiya on Hulu with my wife, and it's absolutely adorable and funny.

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