Spitballing for a supers Mush
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That strikes me as a downright bizarre mashup, with a lot of inherent conflict, but I'll be fascinated to see how you make it work!
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There would be a checklist of conflicts between styles I would have to establish a fix for yes. It wouldn't be easy at all, and I think it would make sense to work on a more.. normal plan alongside it.
I can see some ways of little things here and there. Deciding a meshpoint.
I see for instance a fairly normal comicbook WW2 so you get your captain america, wonderwoman, Flash, Green Lantern and the golden age of heroes all active HERE in this era. The era doesn't require any real changes to fit with this setting and people can still do fish out of water just fine.
I can see things operating normally till the awakening in 2011 our big change there to make matters work is that you've got goblinization as normal but also the first age of mutation. So this would be altered to say all first generation Mutants are from THIS point. It gives us a steady integration point and a way to mesh together metahumans with mutants.
We keep the corporate court mostly the same but I would say the court during the time of our game would be: Ares Macrotechnology (With Wayne Enterprises a subsidiary), Aztechnology, Renraku Computer Systems, Saeder-Krupp, Stark-Fuchi Industrial Electronics, Mitsuhama, Shiawase, Yamatetsu, Lexcorp. Which I think will give good character representation to the most wealthy characters which own a business proper.
Honestly I don't foresee many major changes otherwise. Give an introduction for Atlantis and Theremyscia keep hard line to my standard of: "If DC contradicts Marvel DC is correct" Which should give us a more solidified story for the server.
Put down some hardline elements that ensure we're staying true as we can to the shadowrun world feel while interjecting these recognizable characters and I think we're golden.
As I am aware this idea won't likely hold water I'll still be working on my more standard modern day server.
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I'm with @Wizz , it seems like there would be theme conflict. Wayne enterprise is a subsidiary of a bigger Corp giant? Are all tech type heroes secondary to shadowrun tech cyber samurai types (black panther, booster gold, Bruce's gizmos. would DCs Cyborg be the paragon Cyborg or would shadowrun cybernetics be downright better, Etc.) Then the same for comic magic vs traditional shadowrun mages/ shamans/etc. In comics their more unique/ special, but in shadowrun these concepts seem more mundane? That's the conflict I think @Wizz meant. Also why mix with shadowrun vs a standard comic future variant like marvel 2099? More devil's advocate curios how that would be handled.
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I was hoping for a Shadowrunners are Superheroes theme, not 'Here's another Batman for people to fight over, and another Supergirl for people to camp.' More like...ultra street-samurai. Wildly powerful magic users. Saints Row IV stuff.
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Ah that makes sense. I mean honestly this is a spitball thread for a reason none of these ideas are in stone just what I'm throwing into the night while laying out a foundation. In the case of heroes no mater what setting you're in what makes them super is that they're super in compared to the norm. So in the case of CYBORG his augments are the tip top cream of the crop the concept being that they're heroes because they stick out of the norm. When the norm is more enhanced by necessity the heroes are even more super.
@Lemon-Fox That could certainly work as well just basically do an OC's superheros place where we've got the ultimate in over the top sort of Shadowrun 4ths concept of the Hollywood version of running but even further over the top. The problem we run into with any OC server is that people will STILL app Tony, STILL app Batman. Sure they'll hide them a bit, but at the end of the day no mater what restrictions you put in DC only Marvel Only OC only people will MAKE it a multitheme game. That's just personal experiance talking.
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@Mr-Johnson said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
The problem we run into with any OC server is that people will STILL app Tony, STILL app Batman. Sure they'll hide them a bit
Who cares? I'd love to see people make their own version of Iron Man or Emma Frost or whoever.
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@Lemon-Fox said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
I was hoping for a Shadowrunners are Superheroes theme, not 'Here's another Batman for people to fight over, and another Supergirl for people to camp.' More like...ultra street-samurai. Wildly powerful magic users. Saints Row IV stuff.
Gosh Saints Row would be a fun as f MUSH setting, super tangentially.
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@Lemon-Fox said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
@Mr-Johnson said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
The problem we run into with any OC server is that people will STILL app Tony, STILL app Batman. Sure they'll hide them a bit
Who cares? I'd love to see people make their own version of Iron Man or Emma Frost or whoever.
My pref is OC, I'm over multiverse or canon or all comics welcome or whatever.
I'd much rather see OC server and Iron Mike being an OC in an iron suit the say, someone changing Iron Man or Steel into something they want. On the OC places I ran, I was always excited when someone took iron suit and made it something new and unique, not Iron Man and changing it to be radically different but same name.
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I just don't really see what the Shadowrun setting brings to the table for a superhero game, especially one set in Marvel/DC canon. Shadowrun is cynical, dystopic, and generally speaking pretty low-powered and street level in focus.
Toss supers into the mix and all of that stops making sense. Why would the Justice League/Avengers even allow some of the biggest events of Shadowrun to occur without intervention, like the rise of the dragons and megacorps? Wouldn't Doctor Fate/Doctor Strange be working to stop or reverse goblinization as soon as it started?
Completely handwaving all of that and just splicing the setting together, what place would your typical shadowrunner have in a world where even as a team they are frankly outclassed by even a single lowest tier super? Why would you play as anything else?
The scales and themes are just so mismatched to me that I have a hard time seeing what the appeal is, as opposed to using like a blend of the Legion of Superheroes and Marvel 2099 if you want a far-future high tech setting?
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A DC Beyond game could mix the tropes together fairly well.
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@Wizz said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
I just don't really see what the Shadowrun setting brings to the table for a superhero game, especially one set in Marvel/DC canon. Shadowrun is cynical, dystopic, and generally speaking pretty low-powered and street level in focus.
Nothing, tbh. This is why I think it should be OCs only. I don't care if someone is 'inspired' by canon heroes, like @Lotherio 's mention of an Iron Mike, etc.
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@Lemon-Fox said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
Nothing, tbh. This is why I think it should be OCs only. I don't care if someone is 'inspired' by canon heroes, like @Lotherio 's mention of an Iron Mike, etc.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
@Lemon-Fox said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
Nothing, tbh. This is why I think it should be OCs only. I don't care if someone is 'inspired' by canon heroes, like @Lotherio 's mention of an Iron Mike, etc.
This Iron Mike has the Mark IV Jaws implant I think.
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@Wizz said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
what place would your typical shadowrunner have in a world where even as a team they are frankly outclassed by even a single lowest tier super? Why would you play as anything else?
Yeah it seems like an odd mix. What made SR unique over generic CP was the existence of the metahumans and magic. When you've got Dr. Strange doing his thing and The Thing knocking down walls... your Troll Street Sam becomes nothing more than cannon fodder. And dystopian all-powerful megacorps doesn't seem to jive very well with Superman.
Now OC supers in a near-future cyberpunk (non-Shadowrun) world? That would be something different without the problematic genre clashes.
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There is/was a game that fit this scheme but it was marvel based. Fate rpg I think. Don't recall the name.
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Venture City! It's an original theme, I think, not Marvel or DC.
ETA: Haha misunderstood, there was a MU* that used Venture City for their system that was Marvel-based. Had a decent run if I recall!
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all wishing and yearning and churning in my heart aside I'm still working on the Mostly modern superheroes idea, just need to come up with a name. I've even got a host lined up if I want to use Ares, I just need to find a name, and what's in a name?
Either way work is carrying on. I'm as diligent as a termite and hopefully far less destructive.
To keep on the idea of spitballing: I've been thinking about taking an idea from MultiTheme games and allowing multiple people to play characters and have each character affix a prefix to the end of their name. So you might have Tony 616b or whatever as a quick designation and if multiple people wanted to play the role they could. It's just an idea that i'm spitballing but that's what this thread is for: Me to spitball ideas against the community wall
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For a Shadowrun Super game, maybe something like "Virtually Nowhere"? Especially if there is a focus on decking.
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@Ganymede said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
@Mr-Johnson
For a Shadowrun Super game, maybe something like "Virtually Nowhere"? Especially if there is a focus on decking.What's Virtually Nowhere?
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@Lemon-Fox said in Spitballing for a supers Mush:
What's Virtually Nowhere?
Well, the first room of the game was called /DEV/NULL, so --
