How is there not a Gloomhaven thread here?

[Ominous]

@sunny

No. It's a thread for discussing our thoughts about Gloomhaven. These are my thoughts. It is an expensive, inferior product that can be replaced by other products that do what it does better. Constructive does not mean being a cheerleader. What you object to is the tone your mind's ear is hearing as you read what I wrote, and sadly I can't fix that.

If it works for @cobalt and her group, great. I'm glad they're having fun. It doesn't change my opinion on the game, and my opinion certainly won't change hers. If she looks at some of the things I linked and finds a new game to play that her group enjoys, great. If she doesn't, oh well.

[Roz]

@ominous said in How is there not a Gloomhaven thread here?:

@sunny

My first two comments were aggressive, because I am sick of the asshole Gloomhaven fanboys I have had to deal with, and I would burn all copies of it in a giant bonfire that would shame the wildfires of California and some smaller volcanoes, if I could, just to spite the fuckers.

Go be aggressive at them, then? Why be aggressive at someone else here enjoying a thing in a way that is not being an asshole fanboy? You are directing your aggression at the wrong parties and just being kind of unpleasant for no good reason.

[Sunny]

@ominous

No. What I object to is

My first two comments were aggressive, because I am sick of the asshole Gloomhaven fanboys I have had to deal with,

Which is not the tone in my mind's ear. Idgaf if you like or don't like it, but this is not the Hogpit and your hostility is inappropriate.

[Arkandel]

@ominous I admit I don't understand the issue. No one likes everything other people like.

But in a thread dedicated to finding interest in a specific game it seems a bit counter-productive to pop up and go "well, I don't like it!".

You... don't have to. But then why are you here?

[Ominous]

@arkandel said in How is there not a Gloomhaven thread here?:

But in a thread dedicated to finding interest in a specific game it seems a bit counter-productive to pop up and go "well, I don't like it!".

Again, constructive doesn't mean cheerleading. There is no rule that says that all posts in a thread must be supportive of the thing being discussed. I am not supportive of it, and I am aggressively not, because I feel strongly negative about the game. I hope it is counterproductive to spreading interest in Gloomhaven. I hope the product fails. That's my goal. I do not like the product or segments of it's fanbase. I have not name called anyone, I have not insulted or demeaned the games creators, and I have not I have not villified or insulted anyone posting here who likes it. In fact, I have supported one group's enjoyment of it, even if I would rather they play something else.

I have expressed the opinion that an alternative product is superior. In reply, it was pointed out that my suggestion is both expensive and rules intensive, so I outlined numerous similar products that are inexpensive and/or rules lite and linked to websites listing even more options.

[Ominous]

@sunny said in How is there not a Gloomhaven thread here?:

this is not the Hogpit and your hostility is inappropriate.

I am aware. These are my measured replies to Gloomhaven. If this was the Hogpit, I would be considerably more expressive of my feelings on the game.

[GreenFlashlight]

@ominous I get that you probably feel ganged up on at this point, so I'm not trying to do that. I'm just saying as someone who doesn't even know what Gloomhaven is, "I am extremely justified in yucking your yum, so quit asking me to stop" is a pretty weird hill to die on, such that I'm concerned maybe something else is going on. Are you a thousand percent positive this wouldn't be a good time to take a break, and come back later when you feel more fresh?

[Sunny]

@ominous

Your feelings on the game are one thing. The aggression being aimed at another person here is a different thing entirely. Please stop.

[Ominous]

@greenflashlight

It does not bother me if you gang up to write words at me, so feel free. A back and forth argument over something minor is just a good a way to pass a lazy Saturday afternoon before I head off to a potluck as any other. I was happy to leave the thread with one biting comment in passing that answered the question of why there wasn't a thread about Gloomhaven, or at least why I hadn't started a thread on Gloomhaven. However, if everyone wants to derail the thread with this discussion, I have 3 hours to waste before I start cooking. My distaste for the game has been stated and suggestions for alternatives made. I have nothing more to write about Gloomhaven, unless someone has a specific question for me about it.

[Derp]

It seems weird to me that people keep saying this is not the Hog Pit. Noted, but.... this also isn't Mildly Constructive? And there are no personal attacks?

Like... I'm not sure what rule is being violated, but this isn't even in a constructive section thread?

Seems a good start would be to advocate a move to the section you believe should apply, as a first step.

[Cobalt]

[Misadventure]

I personally rarely like premade content. I like sytems and rules and some stuff in game and in the text that conveys what the setting and play might be like. I like finding the version that resonates with me and my specific friends.

However, lots of people like premade content. Lots of people like the more gimmicky (in my mind) seeming game bits, either as a fun thing ie to offer an alternative to other content, or things like board games that permanently change as you play.

I would guess Gloomhaven isn't for me, but is worthwhile for many folks.

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So how is anyones play going? Whats seems great, what seemed really different that worked, or didn't?

[il-volpe]

An aside, premade content helps people who don't use it make content that fits.