RL Anger

Tinuviel · Nov 28, 2016, 9:36 AM

That's not what I said. I said we do not have a freedom of speech, of any kind. The government can make laws at any time restricting what we can say, and where we can say it, and so forth.

WTFE · Nov 28, 2016, 1:09 PM

@Tinuviel Whoa! Another expat in China! Cool!

Tinuviel · Nov 28, 2016, 1:09 PM

@WTFE Nope. Australia.

Auspice · Nov 28, 2016, 3:28 PM

I'm sure the lawyer-types floating about could explain it better than I... But freedom of speech in the US basically means you're free to express yourself without government censorship/involvement. Where in some cultures there have been times (and still are in places) where, say, speaking out against your country's leader can get you imprisoned (or worse). Freedom of speech says 'You have a right to your own thoughts, opinions, and counsel, without the government's influence.'

A lot of people -- especially kids whose schools haven't taught it properly -- think freedom of speech means 'I can say whatever I want whenever I want and no one can stop me.'

For the kids, on the forums I worked on, I'd often explain it as:
'If someone came into your home and began insulting you, you'd ask them to stop or leave. You wouldn't just stand there and allow it to happen. This site is privately owned and run. We want it to be a safe environment for everyone, so sometimes we have to ask you to keep those thoughts to yourself... or to leave.'

It dumbs the concept down a lot, yes, but... they were kids.

Kanye Qwest · Nov 28, 2016, 3:30 PM

Freedom of speech guarantees that you can say what you want (threats not included) and the government will not throw you in jail or take all your property for it.

It does not protect you from any other consequences that might come of you saying dumb shit. That's where people get confused.

Tinuviel · Nov 28, 2016, 4:05 PM

Right, that's pretty much what I thought. Thank you for explaining.

Ganymede · Nov 28, 2016, 5:29 PM

@Kanye-Qwest said in RL Anger:

Freedom of speech guarantees that you can say what you want (threats not included) and the government will not throw you in jail or take all your property for it.

This is a good way to look at it, if you are someone that doesn't want to toe the line when it comes to laws and regulations that actually infringe on the absolute right.

Jaded · Nov 28, 2016, 7:18 PM

Nintendo NES Classic Edition, a MSRP for $60.00 and fucking re-sellers have blown the market so out of proportion on this thing now you can't find it for less than $300.00 and the places that would sell it for $60.00 are continually sold out. Sonovabitch.

Auspice · Nov 28, 2016, 7:20 PM

@Jaded said in RL Anger:

Nintendo NES Classic Edition, a MSRP for $60.00 and fucking re-sellers have blown the market so out of proportion on this thing now you can't find it for less than $300.00 and the places that would sell it for $60.00 are continually sold out. Sonovabitch.

Last week I saw people listing them on eBay for $10 grand.

Jaded · Nov 28, 2016, 7:22 PM

@Auspice Oh I did not even realize they had hit that high. I figured wait for the rush to die down and the initial stocks to be refilled at the box stores and get one. Of course it does not surprise me that Nintendo does not sell this through their website.

Lisse24 · Nov 28, 2016, 7:24 PM

@Jaded said in RL Anger:

Nintendo NES Classic Edition, a MSRP for $60.00 and fucking re-sellers have blown the market so out of proportion on this thing now you can't find it for less than $300.00 and the places that would sell it for $60.00 are continually sold out. Sonovabitch.

Yeah - I suggested my sister buy this for the nephews as a cheaper than an Xbox option. I feel guilty now.

Jaded · Nov 28, 2016, 7:37 PM

@Lisse24
Probably will not be until springtime before the bottom drops out on these crazy prices.

Auspice · Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

@Jaded said in RL Anger:

@Lisse24
Probably will not be until springtime before the bottom drops out on these crazy prices.

I hope more will be out come Spring. Someone told me they saw something (I cannot find it out) that it was just a limited release. $:\$

Miss Demeanor · Nov 28, 2016, 10:02 PM

There's other options for getting the older style of consoles. Sure it won't be THE NES from the 80's, but it will still play the cartridges. And Gamestop is currently selling all the old games it has. Play & Trade markets specifically towards the older consoles and tends to have the cartridges, too.

Arkandel · Nov 28, 2016, 10:03 PM

@Miss-Demeanor http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22721/how-to-play-your-favorite-retro-video-games-on-your-windows-pc/

Miss Demeanor · Nov 28, 2016, 10:17 PM

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

@Miss-Demeanor http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22721/how-to-play-your-favorite-retro-video-games-on-your-windows-pc/

I've yet to get an emulator to function properly, and in looking at that link, nearly HALF the games on there (and all but one of the games I would want to play) don't even work for the emulators. Also, doesn't fix the problem for people that want a retro system for their kids to play on.

Lisse24 · Nov 28, 2016, 10:26 PM

@Miss-Demeanor said in RL Anger:

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

@Miss-Demeanor http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22721/how-to-play-your-favorite-retro-video-games-on-your-windows-pc/

I've yet to get an emulator to function properly, and in looking at that link, nearly HALF the games on there (and all but one of the games I would want to play) don't even work for the emulators. Also, doesn't fix the problem for people that want a retro system for their kids to play on.

Right, which was the idea for my nephews. The games available on the Xbox are either way too babyish for them or a bit too hard. Old NES games would be just the right challenge level though. They don't take a lot of thinking, just hand-eye coordination.

Miss Demeanor · Nov 28, 2016, 10:29 PM

@Lisse24 Check out Play & Trade and Gamestop. They have retro consoles that can play all the old Nintendo games.

edit: And they don't go over $60-70

Auspice · Nov 28, 2016, 10:29 PM

I've done the emulator thing on my computer.

I hate it.

I hate the keyboard interface and unless I go out and buy a controller just for it (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/1b4c/?srp=1 - $15-20 apiece), the modern controllers are hinky to map/use.

And then you have to hope the game was actually ported correctly.

So sue me if I want this nifty machine I just plug into my TV and get to play without headaches.

Jaded · Nov 28, 2016, 10:57 PM

@Auspice Yeah the ease of use is what I wanted it for. I was going to get one for my brother for his wife, for Christmas, because her disability makes 'ease of use' tech devices best for her.