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@TNP It is. And I should actually mention that to them pronto, because endo runs HEAVILY in my family. I had enough of it at 20 that it was a certainty pregnancy was never gonna be a thing.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality Might want to try a different doctor if that other one isn't listening to you.
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@Aria Irony: Mine are stupid big and I find it generally funny and harmless, but I was like... 'eh, you know, if there's some duct that is being a nuisance, I may as well have them remove that and just do a reduction and cut all the mess out as needed'.
...they cannot even do this without the tests, which they can't do until the horror movie FX department calls it quits.
@TNP Yup. That's next, first thing in the morning. We're calling the GP for a specialist, rather than 'the surgeon the ER assigned to us', and hoping insurance will cover it.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality said in RL Anger:
@TNP Yup. That's next, first thing in the morning. We're calling the GP for a specialist, rather than 'the surgeon the ER assigned to us', and hoping insurance will cover it.
No. You're doing it wrong. Find specialist(s) on your insurance plan then give those names to your PCP. Print out the list and tell him to pick one. I'd also research them as best you can. There's a number of different sites where people can review doctors and while they're certainly not the only thing you should go by, it doesn't hurt to start with the ones with multiple good reviews and definitely avoid the bad ones.
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@TNP We have some odd limits and restrictions; basically anybody at either of the main hospitals in the county will be covered but almost no one else is at all. My husband's insurance is issued from work, out of state -- so while we live in Delaware, his insurance covers almost nothing in Delaware, only New Jersey, save for the big hospital chain here. (No, really, there is literally one dentist listed in the entire county we could see, and one -- one -- GP. We just pay our old one out of pocket.) So it's stickier than it sounds that way.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality If you live close enough to NJ that he can work there, why can't you go to a doctor there? You can still get a referral to see an out of state doctor ( I assume your GP is on your insurance plan).
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@TNP He isn't. I don't have a car, and he works out of state four days out of the week, far enough away he has to stay there overnight two nights out of the week.
So long as they're with the main hospitals here (ChristianaCare), they're in the clear. Otherwise, we're pretty much screwed. Thankfully, most of the doctors in the state are affiliated with the hospitals (small state), you just need a referral for the specialists or a surgeon, which you can get from the ER, an in-network doc, or an out-of-network doc (though they will double check the out-of-network ones). That we have an ER visit and four visits to a surgeon already on this one is fairly well established so it's not a new case.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality Ah. Well, you should still research all the possible specialists that fit the bill and present them to him. If he has first hand experience with some, great. You might want to consider a visit to the Ob/Gyn in addition to a surgeon.
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@TNP Definitely. The plus side is that while the options are limited for basics like the GP (correction, there's one GP and one homeopath), but they have been extremely chill about covering what's recommended. Most won't, for instance, cover a penny of the difference in cost between a shared and a private room in the hospital, but since the hospital told them: 's'all we had at the time, guys' there was never so much as a whiff of objection. It may just be that it was because they recommended it, and we didn't request it -- but that's the kind of thing most places won't cover either way.
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@surreality Don't know if they tried this of if it's safe for you, but could they put you on an inhibitor for your cycle to see if it can heal up without restarting? Like Provera or something?
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@surreality -- Dunno how far south in Delaware you are, but if you're willing to drive up to Chester County, PA? I know the executive assistant who supports the Women's Health Clinical Research Center at UPenn, 'cause I used to work for the office that monitored the research trials. I can give her a call if you'd like and see if she can recommend anyone at the Chester county sites.
https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
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@Aria Shit, we could probably grab coffee some time. We're right between Wilmington and Claymont, right south of there. I will have him check on the PA network covered sites when he's home next, definitely.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality -- Yeah, if you're that far north, I can recommend Penn Medicine. Highly. I mean, I'll be honest. They are EXPENSIVE. I still owe $650 for biopsies that were mostly covered but not entirely due to a fluke in the timing of getting our employee health incentives/not yet hitting our deductible. A one-two punch of the boyfriend having an eye injury requiring a sub-specialty of a specialty and me needing four biopsies all within the first three weeks of the year kinda turned that into a shitstorm...
But it's Penn. They know their stuff. They are really, really good at what they do. Their bedside manner can sometimes be lacking in that way that highly intelligent experts in their field can be, but with rare exceptions? You're unlikely to receive medically better treatment anywhere in the Philadelphia region.
https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
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@Aria We hit our deductible real fast. 5 days into the year, 'hi, you're almost dead, come stay with us for two weeks... ' was a thing that happened -- so in part I'm trying to not dally 'cause since we're past our deductible, and halfway up to our annual max out-of-pocket on top of that, well, it's time to Do Things if they Need Doing. I'll have him check that (since most hospital networks are covered I'm betting they will be) and poke privately for more info once he gets back to me. Thank you muchly.
Oh fucking well.
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It is both terrible and awesome when you meet that maximum annual out of pocket amount. That feeling you get when you know that anything else you need/want/can make happen for the rest of the year that would normally be covered is now going to be covered 100%? Shit, that is awesome.
And then you remember the several thousand in medical bills that got you there.. but still. It's like being Canadian but without the waiting.
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@WildBaboons said in RL Anger:
It's like being Canadian but without the waiting.
You know, all this verbiage and I've never had to wait for a necessary procedure. Ever. Even semi-voluntary procedures like my knee surgery my "wait" was a grand total of two weeks from seeing the sports injury specialist and being wheeled in on the gurney--and five days of that was my schedule causing problems!
It's almost as if there's political forces at work that want to spread that "yeah, but you have to WAIT" meme while carefully pointing you away from just how much your systems are costing you for how little benefit...
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It likely depend on where you live. I live near the border. It's not uncommon for US citizens to go to Canada for some procedure for way cheaper, but more common to have Canadians coming here to have stuff done they didn't want to wait for up there. It's anecdotal, but just been my expierence when talking with family in the medical field and other patients of my own doctor in the US who were from Canada, and the doctor himself. He said nearly half his practice was Canadian at times.
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@Aria Man, I hate to start something, but ...
I'm Christian.
I grew up in the Evangelical community, though in a very small, independent tradition, and not among the Baptist wave.
Although, I left my tradition for a mainline denomination, I'm currently attending a church of that same tradition again, because family.
I'm Christan. I grew up as a Methodist, but left for a conservative Congregationalist church (neo-Calvinist). I find the term "evangelical" somewhat puzzling. After all the Church of England and Methodists are part of the "evangelicalism" movement, and are considered by many to be "mainstream".
Furthermore, almost all Christians sects "evangelize" or "proselytize" more or less. Back in the 80's and 90's, the media used the term "fundamentalist" in referring to churches it considered "conservative", now days they use "evangelical" for some reason.I disagree a ton with what many Evangelicals preach and believe. I do not believe there is a war on Christians. I do not believe Christians should be able to legislate morality, BUT ...
Who should legislate morality then? Maybe that's begging the question... Are not most laws based on morality?
The argument isn't that they're oppressed because they're no longer able to force their beliefs on people. The argument is that they're oppressed because they feel like they can no longer voice their beliefs outside of their own small circle without having half the country jump down their throat for their backwardness and hate. They feel like their not even given the chance to truly explain what they believe or how it differs from more extreme fundamentalists like Westboro Baptist.
I agree. Why anyone cares what ~40 people in a Topeka, Kansas church think is beyond me.
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@surreality Hope you find someone good then. Do post updates though preferably not in this particular thread.
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You seem like a nice person, so I'll be gentle on you and keep the really bad words I want to use out of the equation. For now.
Pats @WTFE on head. You seem like a gentle non-condescending soul.
You're talking to someone whose hobby (RPGs) was on the receiving end of hate campaigns you had to see to believe. They hunted us out in the school basement in my high school. (Luckily the principal had a backbone and told them to fuck off so they were left with only harassing us with pamphlets.) They (in this case the Campus Crusade for Christ) followed us from room to room in university until we found a place they couldn't reach us (a private attached college's meeting room) trying to get our club shut down.
Our Wargamming/D&D club met in the basement of St. Mary's Catholic church and the priest played with us. And yes, for some reason he always played a cleric. We'd all heard about the media frenzy over devil worship, but as far as I remember nobody's parents took it seriously.
Given all of this, you'll have to excuse me if I'm a bit gunshy whenever I meet someone who self-identifies as a Christian. Especially of the evangelical camp. (The tormentors in high school were Adventists.) And if you think you're oppressed because of people like us being gunshy and suspicious, perhaps it's time for you to reflect on how you (the collective, not you individually) have been treating people for centuries. Perhaps, then, you'll feel a bit of sympathy instead of whining about your oppression.
My German teacher in high school was a Russian orthodox nun who managed to escape the Soviet Union where over 250,000 priests and nuns were rounded up and murdered by atheists. Given the track record of atheists in the 20th century, well that ought to turn many a Christian white with fear.
