Dragon Age: Inquisition
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@Monogram said:
My problem with Sara is that there is absolutely zero growth with her.
This would be like hating Tony Stark because there's no growth with him. Not all characters have to change to be interesting. Her depth is largely displayed as someone who's unafraid to show all their cards, and half the characters are there to try and change the world into what they think it should be. (Solas, Cole, Vivianne, Sera, Dorian, Leliana come to mind.)
Sera is certainly pushy about it, but I had a lot of fun with her. The Sera/Viv banter is especially fun.
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@Thenomain said:
@Monogram said:
My problem with Sara is that there is absolutely zero growth with her.
This would be like hating Tony Stark because there's no growth with him. Not all characters have to change to be interesting. Her depth is largely displayed as someone who's unafraid to show all their cards, and half the characters are there to try and change the world into what they think it should be. (Solas, Cole, Vivianne, Sera, Dorian, Leliana come to mind.)
Sera is certainly pushy about it, but I had a lot of fun with her. The Sera/Viv banter is especially fun.
Maybe not change so much as grow. Or evolve, or whathaveyou. Again, I have no problems with characters wanting the world into how they see, I just they did a better job at portraying it.
When it comes down to it, I just dislike her writing. She could've been a great character, but seems more like she was entirely catered towards the tumblr crowd.
And she looks like Gollum.
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Don't play a dwarf if you like your romance options to be very few.
Er... the only race locked romance options are Cullen and Solas. So technically humans get one more option (Cullen) and elves get two (Cullen and Solas).
So based purely on race (Dwarf) that leaves 6 optoins. I dunno that I'd call Dwarves having 6 and humans having 7 leaving dwarves as having 'very few' romance options.
I hate Sara.
Sera. It's SERA. Why do people even make this mistake? All of you need to die in a fire. >.<
I don't like her much either, though.
Both of these builds need to be nerfed big time. Otherwise the game lacks any real challenge. The Archer/Assassin especially so since you can simply snipe enemies from a distance and because the AI only reacts within a certain distance, and you can shoot farther than that distance, most enemies will just stand there until dead.
Uh... you do realize you can do that with mages, too? Anything you can click on, you can hit with your activated projectile powers, more or less. Any mage with any kind of projectile power can kill pretty much anything they can see from a distance. Archer/Assassin isn't terribly special in that regard.
Couple that [Knight Enchanter] with an armor mastercrafted with Enchanted Obsidian(which gives you 3 armor per hit)and you're nigh-unkillable.
There's another one that gives you 5 Guard per hit, and either of them make most characters pretty close to unkillable. I solo'd the level 23 dragon on a dagger rogue just to see if I could, and you totally can. Knight Enchanter certainly adds a level of invincibility on top of that, but it's real OPness is that it can do so while also dishing out such incredibly insane amounts of damage, especially against Guard and Barrier, which a number of Elite enemies (and dragons) use to bolster their HP.
Legion of the Dead armor is pretty awesome. If you're a dwarf warrior. I believe it's the best overall armor in the game. Why that would be reserved for just a dwarven warrior is beyond me, but most tier three armors fall just slightly short of it.
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Do you even Dragon Age?
The Legion of the dead is an elite subset of the Dwarven army. Hence Dwarven warriors only.
I'm curious how the DLC for it will be. It's a BioWare game by EA, OF COURSE there's going to be DLC.
I'm not convinced. The only DLC they've even whispered about is multiplayer stuff. Seems like they put everything in the main game they intended to, more or less. Plus they've got a fuck ton of devs dedicated to the next Mass Effect game at the moment.
I'm sad. I wanted this to be cool but it's not skyrim and I just can't get into it.
Not being Skyrim is not a criticism. Skyrim's got its place, but ugh. This was so much better than that. The best thing Skyrim had going for it is modding, which it's a shame this doesn't have.
My problem with Sara is that there is absolutely zero growth with her. She's childish, hypocritical, short-sighted...I could really go on and on. Her calling out Varric on his stuff is fine, someone does, but everything else, she is a horribly written character with zero depth and zero growth as a character. Everyone else, that actually do some amount of evolving from where they were when you first met them, but Sara is nothing but static. She wants everything to fit into her little world where everything caters to what she thinks it should be. If it wasn't so obscenely immature, I could maybe go with it. But it's not.
While I don't like Sera, this seems like... enh. Not to put too fine a point on it, but you looking at it that way is exactly why she's written to see things the way she does. These games are full of people making big sweeping decisions 'for the good of the world', who can't (or won't) let themselves get bogged down thinking about what the decisions they make do to the everage person. The ones who are stuck living with the outcome or fallout of those decisions, who make up the bulk of the world those decisions take place in.
She's not supposed to get past that, and pretty resolutely says as much. That somebody has to think of the little guy, because the bulk of the movers and shakers are so focused on The Big Picture that they don't have the time, energy, or luxury of doing so.
If everyone were like Sera, the big decisions would never get made, but as she points out more than once there's no shortage of people ready and able to make those big decisions for everybody else. She even gets frustrated because she realizes that those big decisions HAVE to get made, and she doesn't like having to face the fact that her worldview isn't one that lets that happen. Sera isn't going to save the world, and she knows it, and it frustrates her that looking out for the little guy might end up with all the little guys everywhere getting killed.
I don't really like her, but I feel like you're sort of proving the validity of her point by pretending it's just childish nonsense. Plus you accused them of adding her to appease the tumblr crowd which just makes you sound like an ass.
And she looks like Gollum.
Yeah, she is pretty fugly.
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You do know that anyone could wear Legion of the Dead armor in DA;O and Awakenings, right? No, I know that's not an excuse because that doesn't make any canonical sense, but still.
I probably am being too hard on Sera but if she would just grow the fuck up a little, maybe I'd be nicer to her. Which is probably why I take her the Fade every chance I get. Because it's somewhat cathartic to have her standing here trying to disbelieve something when she's knee deep in it. Or maybe I just enjoy watching that character suffer, I dunno.
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You do know that anyone could wear Legion of the Dead armor in DA;O and Awakenings, right? No, I know that's not an excuse because that doesn't make any canonical sense, but still.
People used warrior characters in DA:O and Awakenings? O_O
Re: Sera
I didn't really use her hardly ever. I just found the tone of her voice extremely grating, though I've seen videos of some of her banter with folks that was pretty funny. I did like doing prank stuff with her, I guess.
My fourth (well, three and a half) playthrough will be as a female elven mage who's going to leave Verric at Skyhold all the time and just travel with Sera (spec'd to daggers), Solas, and Cassandra, and tell everybody else to piss off.
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Granted, I thought it was great idea to use dual wield with a fighter while wearing massive armor. It worked...usually.
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@HelloRaptor said:
Yeah, she is pretty fugly.
Sera is the 'Teetness.
I'd do her in a heartbeat. Different strokes and all that.
I mean, some people even liked Dragon Age 2, and that was pretty fugly.
My second play-through of DA:O was a female city elf warrior. I played her as pissed off at all of humankind, through and through, and she was pretty easy to play. The only time I had to reduce difficulty was when fighting the Carta, but that fight always kicks my balls. Every time.
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@HelloRaptor said:
My fourth (well, three and a half) playthrough will be as a female elven mage who's going to leave Verric at Skyhold all the time and just travel with Sera (spec'd to daggers), Solas, and Cassandra, and tell everybody else to piss off.
This was my first time around. I like Varric, but I preferred Sera's banter. Went with Cassandra and Blackwall too. It was fun.
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Two warriors? Agh, what. I don't even...
Is one of them at least spec'd for two handed?
What difficulty are you guys playing on, anyway?
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Looking at the screen art, Sera looks like a baseline of Angelina Jolie ala Girl, Interrupted with a nose that's been broken enough to leave it slightly off-kilter and a butcher that cuts her hair. Got that constant scowl of Jolie's too. If the 'tude is the same... might have found why people either like her or hate her. YMMV
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Sera asks you how you can walk if you are a human female in a relationship with Bull. Other than that I guess she really pisses Solas off. Iron Bull and Blackwall get a nice warriors bromance going on. Every time she goes on about the little people, I get the Les Mis song stong in my head.
My current play through I'm streaming / uploading I play on normal with friendly fire off because the Santa that got it for me for Christmas was doing Templar and he wanted to see the mage side, but he's the type where he's put over 100 hours into it again and just doesn't want to touch the game for a while. Friendly fire off, and I never use the tactical stuff. I do all my selling and crafting when I'm not recording, and am just playing it through for story. So of course the silly hats are on, and the persistent gore remains. I'm going to romance everyone (but Vivvenne) and I'm going to try and out-bitch Vivvienne too. Let's see how much furniture she can have moved! All mages, all the time. And Alistair is king.
It's been well established that I suck at games though as three hours into The Resident Evil remaster and I still hadn't seen a Crimsonhead. In my defence though, I hadn't played it in a decade. And I must be doing something right since someone bought me Alien Isolation to watch me play it.
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Other than that I guess she really pisses Solas off.
Weird. I always got the impression Solas was entertained by and approved of Sera more often than not.
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@HelloRaptor said:
What difficulty are you guys playing on, anyway?
Normal, but I generally let the characters do their own things because it's not like DA:O where it's simple to manage them and keep them where I told them to bloody well be. I suspect this is a setting change, but the combat AI in Origins seemed to be a lot more intelligent or at the very least natural, somehow. Somehow.
I find two warriors makes a nice wall for the other two to hide behind. Alternatively, one warrior and one melee rogue. Sword-and-shield for preference.
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@HelloRaptor I don't know honestly. Sometimes I find it really hard to figure out who likes who; Solas and Dorian were going at it at the start, all about mage freedom and all that, and Solas never really seemed to get along with Bull, and then suddenly things were fine. Dorian and Bull too, I was ready to not have in a party together, and then they started bonding over killing Tvinters. I'm mostly basing it on the whole say what thing.
My favourite interactions has to be Varric and Cole though, if you make him more human.
And Cole and Bull because it freaks him out when Cole reads his mind, and just tells everyone who will listen that Bull and I are in a BDSM relationship... and do it on the war table. And then, next thing you know, it's another attempt at a knock-knock joke.
Also, I need to write an open letter to Blackwall:
*Dear Blackwall,
Fuck you. I literally didn't see you for 24 hours of game time, you weren't where you were supposed to be. Neither was Leliana, so I figured you guys were off getting it on somewhere, since I can't remember if I made her hardened or not. And hey, everyone needs a break now and then, even when the world could potentially end.
But then, I switch to my main character on my stream to show off my Nugs, and there you are chilling by the well. So Fuck. You. Blackwall.
Love, Insomnia.*
I actually feel a little better now.
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@HelloRaptor said:
Two warriors? Agh, what. I don't even...
Is one of them at least spec'd for two handed?
Actually, Blackwall was, but I switched him to the sword-and-shield. Cassandra was always sword-and-shield. I converted Sera to a melee-rogue to take advantage of her Tempest specialization better. And then, I was a Knight-Enchanter.
In short, the usual tactic was to rush up and beat the shit out of people in hand-to-hand. It worked just fine, even against most dragons.
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The guy in Val Royeaux who sells only one thing; a mystery box for 10k gold. If you buy it, then go back later there will be a golden Nug there. if you click on it, it will open up a wartable option. Do it and you will get 5 giant, ridable Nugs.
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@Insomnia said:
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen. I don't mind playing with theme ("Ironically, Spiders"), but that's downright fan service. Guh.
Also, your hair is made of oil.
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I would say plastic, but since plastic comes from oil, I'll live with it.
If I turn up mesh to high on this computer, it threatens to do bad things to me when I sleep. Pointy things.
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So, question to you all.
EA Publishers Sale is going on at XBox Live Marketplace. Dragon Age: Origins is $4.49, Dragon Age II is $3.99. Mind, I haven't really gotten into DA:I yet because Skyrim bit me, but should I consider getting them both, to as to have "the full story", such as it is?
