Posts made by Coin

Less crunchy though.

It's better than, "The Box" as a nickname. >.<

@Ganymede said:

@Coin said:

The scenarios you posit are absolutely true, and they can push you immediately to poverty in a way that is devastating, though, yes. It doesn't mean you are poor, but the potential is there, which is often terrifying in its own right. But there is a difference between, "could" and "did", is all I was saying.

I understand. What I'm saying is that your definition is too narrow. I mean, not as narrow as the current, federal definition of poverty, but it's still narrow.

What salts me is that some of the problems are not difficult to overcome.

Oh, probably. But I was more railing against people who complain they are poor but, you know, are really just not. Quantifying it is hard. But yeah, it's probably narrower than it should be, yeah.

@Ganymede said:

@Coin said:

And anyone who has the above things and says that they are poor, without being in immediate danger of losing those things (and who are able to apply said things to their kids), is lying.

Define "immediate danger."

Do you have health insurance? A single personal injury accident could destroy your life through debt. Do you have auto insurance? A single accident could destroy your life through incapacity to work due to lack of transport. Do you depend on relatives? Their untimely demise could destroy your life. Are all of these things that can and do happen to people, and push them into what "experts" would call "poverty"? Absolutely.

One problem in the United States is that people convince themselves that they are not in poverty. If they came to realize how precarious their situation really is, maybe they would mobilize to create effective and affective change politically and economically. But they do not, because it's easier to convince themselves that they are not shit on, and have not been shitted on, by other classes.

No, I'm talking about situations where you are heading towards there due to financial strain.

"I just lost my job. I can still put food on the table and keep the house warm for a few months, but after that I don't know what we're going to do".

The scenarios you posit are absolutely true, and they can push you immediately to poverty in a way that is devastating, though, yes. It doesn't mean you are poor, but the potential is there, which is often terrifying in its own right. But there is a difference between, "could" and "did", is all I was saying.

@Ganymede said:

@Luna said:

Along this line, I hate 'poor' people who don't know what actual 'poor' is. Yes, I know some upper middle class who are disconnected from reality but they're not trying to be mouthpieces for a class they are not actually part of but claim to be part of.

Poverty defies a single label, so I give people a pass on this issue.

Until they are talking specifically about a certain type of poverty.

I like to joke that I'm "poor" with my online friends because they live in the U.S. and the currency exchange rate makes my buying some things they buy a lot more expensive. I also didn't have a stable job for years until November 2014, but was still living on my own, so it was a huge struggle.

... but I am not actually poor. I'm not. I have a mother who supports me when I really need it, I have food, clothes, and a bed I don't freeze in at night. Now I have a job I can at least rely on to keep me from requiring support from others.

I'm not poor. And anyone who has the above things and says that they are poor, without being in immediate danger of losing those things (and who are able to apply said things to their kids), is lying. True poverty is a destructive, degrading thing that I wouldn't wishon anyone.

I can't help but think of the latest Last Week Tonight, which had as a main issue "food waste", particularly in the U.S. If you haven't watched it, I highly recommend it.

While I always equated the term with someone who was born into the working class and remained in the working class, but led a productive, engaging, and healthy life, typically with values that relate to supporting their community and the rights of their class.

@NOTuseless said:

@Faceless said:

@JaySherman I have a clear response to your original question after reading some of the replies to your inquiry. Close the doors, board them up, spray paint "DONT DEAD OPEN INSIDE" on them and walk away. If for no other reason than to watch @NOTuseless go absolutely loony. So please, I implore you, shut this game down.

Im sorry to disappoint you but I wont be going looney if she shuts the game down. I said my peace. She can do what she wants. Ive had enough of the sorry pieces of shit it seems the entire mush community is riddled with, the people on this thread clearly part of to the point I think Im sorry I even suggested she keeps the pace open. Its not worth it. So you guys go rattle on about something else now. Im done.

I think you expected something completely different when you thundered in here self-righteously.

To be clear, I don't particularly think you're entirely wrong (and I don't give enough of a fuck to argue the points I think you're wrong on) but if you were expecting some sort of sympathy and whatnot, this is the wrong place. Even in the Mildly Constructive board.

You may certainly get it. But it will never be because you went looking for it.

@whirlyturd said:

Someones would be more appropriate, hence why so many people have left (citing both the head staffer and the problematic staffer as the reason.)

I know I am probably coming off as snarky but I'm just a little shaken up by all this and I'm extremely insulted and hurt that I would be talked about in such a way because I chose to leave following these events.

"Someone" doesn't have a plural, which is why I didn't use it.

@Ganymede said:

@whirlyturd said:

I played on JaySherman's game and I loved it except for one of the staffers who would privately message me sexually harassing comments.

At the risk of being told that I'm promoting rape culture, I would have recommended leaving the game a long time ago.

It's not promoting rape culture; it's just a facet of avoiding harrassment. I would have suggested lodging the complaint, letting everyone know, providing the logs or whatever is necessary, and then getting the fuck out. You were just less explicit and more to the point.

At this point, it doesn't really matter which is the truth. The environment is toxic for someone, regardless.

@The-Tree-of-Woe said:

@Coin

I'll debate Buffy-style absurdism and how it's actually quite poisonous with you sometime, but not now--I gotta go to my soulless day job.

I'll probably agree with you to a certain degree but also contest that it's still great to have absurdism in life. I also built both serious horror and absurdism into the themes of the game.

But to exemplify: I often groan at people when they bring up Cthulhu, because I quickly realize they know him more from his absurdist interpretations as a popular and trendy plushie than anything, and that that sort of mainstream attention takes away from the effect of Lovecraft's horror when people read it after the fact. It makes me grumpy, because I would like for people to also be able to take that sort of theme seriously, but often they don't.

... and then someone goes and does something that makes me cackle. Degrees.

@whirlyturd said:

There is always more to the story then what you think, but knowing this, does this just make pulling the plug a better idea?

Yes.

@The-Tree-of-Woe said:

"Tenties?" Really?

Too Reach-y.

Don't criticize something because you've allowed The Reach's use of Lovecraftiana to sour Lovecraftiana in general for you.

@JaySherman said:

The issue is that the game's population has dwindled into a group of people who are only logging in to harass the remaining staff and fight with each other. It has collected all the banned players from previous dead MU*s of the same theme, and they have decided to re-engage in their Hatfield-McCoy blood feuds. There is no RP here, only people who believe their hurt feelings demand someone be axed.

Pull the plug. They have no right to impose on other people like that. If they want to do that, they can go make their own game and hate each other there.

@Miss-Demeanor said:

You know, I have to say I like Eldritch more for the fact that you guys will play CAH. XD

It's good to know just how horrible the people you're running a game with are.

Also plot ideas.

Yeah. Plot ideas.

Ohshhiiiiiit.

@JaySherman said:

When is it appropriate to close a game? Not just one that's dead and collecting dust - but one that still has players on it? IS it appropriate to close a game when there are still players on it? Have any of you had to put down a MU* like ol' Yeller?

Yeah. We closed Unlimited Universe (a comic book MU) when none of the headstaffers were interested in continuing it (and while people were still playing, it was down to maybe a fifth or less compared to peak). So we told people we were closing it and gave them a month, I think, to wrap up their storylines. Some of them did, and others just didn't log on anymore. Ultimately it was for the best, at least from my point of view. Other games cropped up. It was fine. I'm sure some people are bitter, but... eh.

@Thenomain said:

@Coin

Fixed.

Emmah is not a staffer everywhere she goes in the same way that I'm not a coder on every WoD Mux.

Trufax.

@Thenomain said:

Current Staffer "Cards Against Humanity" win count:

@Coin: 4
@Eerie: 2
@EmmahSue: 1
@Thenomain: 1

Well, @EmmahSue isn't a staffer per se, but ... I feel like she could just log on a staff bit and we'd all be okay with it. Also, you won a game the other day.

@Chime said:

Back up. Sorry for the trouble.

MPM-ITK (the thing that lets me host php inside a mod_php but with different sites owned by different users rather than that horrid common wwwdata heresy) still has some odd glitches now and then. The nightly apache2ctl graceful (for log rotation) apparently got stuck. Fixed now!

All good! Thank you!

Looks like whichever bit of Mechanipus @Chime has Reno's wiki on is down, folks. Just FYI, so you know. I'm sure it'll pop back up soon! Same with Eldritch.

Looks like whichever bit of Mechanipus @Chime has Eldritch's wiki on is down, folks. Just FYI, so you know. I'm sure it'll pop back up soon! Same with Reno.