@brent You know, I'm gonna be honest? I completely forgot the "Zone of FUCKING NOTHING" even existed until now.
Actually now that I think about it, there is /one/ thing on Potato that I do miss on Atlantis. The "new activity" line. While it could potentially make a window a bit spammy, it's nice to have an easy visual indicator for where you left off. Is there a way to add that to spawn windows in Atlantis?
I just bought a Macbook specifically for Atlantis and my only issue is that I still prefer being on my desktop with a mouse and two 23" monitors. That said, spawn windows are so broken in Potato and everything looks so much cleaner in Atlantis now.
I do miss two input windows. If @Sparks wants a beta tester, I volunteer as tribute!
@arkandel said in MUSH Marriages (IC):
@ganymede said in MUSH Marriages (IC):
Seriously, I've had great relationship RP. Fun relationship RP, that didn't always become about the hawt seX0rz. I can think of a dozen folks I have such a good time with in a relationship, mostly because, I guess, I'm not clingy or needy as a player.
After a long time in the hobby I think where things usually break down is where any kind of boundary getting crossed isn't met with an immediate - mild, but clear - message that it's inappropriate. It doesn't have to be a fight or a 'breakup', but it does need to be explicitly communicated and not argued.
When it comes to some of the needier, angst-filled people in our community signals room for negotiation. So I whine at you because you're playing in a room with your alt with someone else and you try to explain yourself, the message you are sending ("hey, I'm not doing anything wrong, man") isn't the one I'm receiving ("if I make your life miserable every time you do this, you'll stop doing this, and instead only play with me"). It's because that's what I want to read, and what I want from you, yet what you want isn't a concern of mine.
The correct messaging has to be explicit. I think you are doing a good job of that, and it's something I wish more people did since it'd eliminate much of the drama. "Hey, I play alts whose RP is separate than the RP we have together. I do different things sometimes, it doesn't mean I don't like the RP we have." If there's any pushback on it, offer to figure out a way to transition out of the RP you have with that person - and if there's more pushback I'd advise to turn the offer into a mandate. Don't argue the point, just declare it; this signals your boundaries aren't up for debate.
Lines. They need to exist, and they need to be respected, else bad things can, have, and will continue to happen.
The amount of truth in this is mind boggling. I wish somebody had pointed this out to me years ago. I could have avoided a lot of drama. I've always had a hard time putting up boundaries OOC. I just wish people wouldn't keep trying to drag their RL baggage into an IC relationship.
My favorite marriage I ever had was with a political match, arranged marriage with a man that loved my character, but she hated him and resented everything he did. We had a lot of great rp out of it, and ooc we were all cool about it. Communication was key, because we were horrid to each other, but that's what RP is. It ISN'T REAL. I think far too often people forget that. I sometimes need a little reminder myself.
@darinelle Oh shit. Well, looks like you've got my number!
@darinelle Yeah, I'm starting to think that I might not be the best judge of character.
@darinelle said in MUSH Marriages (IC):
The other player was exceptionally sane, and so our RP was full of drama and emotion and fun but there was nothing OOC but a good friendship with mutual respect.
Where do you find these people? Teach me your ways! I've gotten chastised for... Rping on my alt while with my partner, for TSing on my alt while me partner was in a GMed scene, for my character being sightly rude to her character for in character reasons, FOR HAVING A RELATIONSHIP ON MY ALT...
How long did this relationship continue? Too long. Just. Too long. Didn't get married. Glad I didn't.
My vote would always be for a Tar Valon setting. My Aes Sedai obsession when I was a teenager was... Ridiculous. I'm very interested though.
@darinelle I mean, that's a fair point. I'm pretty well established at this point and while I'm not looking to ask for that on any of my current alts, it's something that might be handy down the line if anything were to happen to my current batch. The me from February really could've used a boost, is all I'm saying!
@sparks said in Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning:
And if there's a specific storyline that intrigues you, ask staff to help refresh your clues with ones focused on that specific storyline
I had no idea that was even an option!
@roz Right, like has been said, the fashion system can be safely ignored if it's not something that interests you. There are plenty of players that want nothing to do with combat, or politics, or religion, so they can ignore those aspects of the game. The fashion system is exactly the same as that. As for people not wearing anything? Well clearly they're wearing clothes that are appropriate for their station, but are completely unremarkable. I think that's a fair way to play it.
I don't know why options are a bad thing. I don't get how giving those of us that like fashion relevance is a bad thing. Lifestyle gives you those bonuses, but a fashion system gives crafters relevance, as of now people have declared expensive clothes a waste of money because it provides no coded benefit, and if you don't want to spend all this time coding your outfits, there are several crafters that can provide those for you. If you don't want to use the fashion system, than don't. I quit being a crafter myself because it wasn't how I wanted to spend my RP time, and yet I still manage to acquire tons of outfits, pre fashion system, just because I like having them.
Cheese. Anything with cheese. Cheesy goodness. Fill me up with cheese.
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Well I will say one thing. It's probably not a coincidence that this hobby has such a disproportionate amount of people that code for a living.
@auspice When the MU I was on shut down, I had nowhere else to really go. Wora was... well. WORA. This place didn't exist yet, and I wasn't really aware of any other MU that had the right feel or setting or sense of community. Eventually I found it in Arx, but there was a 2-3 year period where I didn't have anything.
After about a year of no RP, I accidentally ran into an RP group on FFXIV, and I was so excited I just wanted to RP again and get involved in something. It is nothing like what I was looking for at all. Everything you said is true. It's all power posing and just... I did it for a while because I was starved for it. It was a port in a storm.
That was basically the kind of RP I did before MU, which I'd only discovered about 8-9 years ago. Sure, I'd found MUDs before then, but I quickly lost interest when all the most popular muds were devoid of any kind of role playing, and were just all about mob grinding basically the antithesis of everything that I am.
@Moonman Mentioned that they're on internet forums doing play-by-post. That's how I got started. Back when I was 16, there was a random Star Wars RP that started up in a forum that doesn't exist anymore. I got hooked on the concept and when the board went defunct I looked for other places to RP, and found a Wheel of Time based community. I liked it but there was something missing. I hated the pacing and there was never a feeling of risk to it. Everything was safe. If a character died, it's because they decided to write their characters out. Well my friend introduced my to a MU she had been playing on the side. As it turns out, this was exactly what I had been looking for. Sure, to the rest of the MU community it was a cesspit that should be avoided at all costs, but I didn't know that!
The point of all that is simply that, if it weren't for these other avenues of RP I never would've been drawn to the hobby in the first place. There are other potential MUers out there, and they don't even realize it. They need to be introduced and brought in, and that's part of the problem. This hobby is virtually invisible unless you know it's there. Sure, different culture and all that, but the people that don't fit in tend to get weeded out pretty quickly, but there are others that would have been a part of that power posing culture that Auspice mentioned that would really prefer a more tightly knit experience with more structure and rules, and as far as I'm concerned, this is the format, bar none that gets the job done. Nothing else in my experience even comes close.
I mean, sure this is a small community, and I don't think it's going to last forever. This is as niche as niche gets. Is that a bad thing? The people we have here are dedicated to the hobby. We love it, and we pour so much of ourselves into it. Wouldn't you agree that it's better to have a game of a few dozen dedicated and passionate players, than hundreds of power posers just looking to act out a fetish or a hero fantasy? My favorite hobby is small, weird, and impossible to explain to anybody on the outside, and I like it that way. I'll be around for as long as there's a community to be a part of.
Sounds interesting, but I'm wondering what grid RP would be. Would the whole game take place in a base?
