@Wizz said:
Also, if you want to see why I think a Demon: The Fallen post-apoc game would just be awesome, you should start watching Dominion. IT IS SO COOL...except for all the Chosen One bullshit, haha.
Yeah, Jesus is so overrated. ;D
@Wizz said:
Also, if you want to see why I think a Demon: The Fallen post-apoc game would just be awesome, you should start watching Dominion. IT IS SO COOL...except for all the Chosen One bullshit, haha.
Yeah, Jesus is so overrated. ;D
@Miss-Demeanor said:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/224060/
Deadpool game, back on Steam. If I disappear for a week or two, people with my Steam name know where to find me!
Yikes, $40? The game was super fun, but that's like a two year old game, and the console versions sell for like $20 now.
First post updated with some Windows 10 info.
@The-Tree-Of-Woe
I mostly meant that it being 2015, the 'future' presented in the first Shadowrun novels can feel kind of... Ennngh. It's hard to explain. When I was a kid the sci-fi angles of Shadowrun were pretty 'futuristic' but now a lot of it's kind of lolhowcute. Not enough to make me enjoy them too much less, but it was a bit jarring on a reread.
I'm aware the game has been updating itself. I'd be tempted to play a 5E Shadowrun game, but I don't think they have a decently referenced ruleset. Several of the people I play with only barely remember the 3.5/Pathfinder rules and they've been playing that for years (and I'm talking some pretty basic shit, not esoteric system knowledge). The idea of trying to learn them some Shadowrun makes my teeth hurt.
Perhaps as I was the target audience of the original Shadowrun, and we had already played a good deal of Cyberpunk/CP2020, there was little more to get that the intro history and stories didn't create sufficient immersion.
Despite what might be implied by my above comments to Tree, the cyberpunk angle of Shadowrun was always the least interesting part to me. Least interesting as in it was interesting but not as interesting as the rest, in particular the magical, spiritual, and metaphysical elements of the larger world and their integration into a modern-then-futuristic setting.
The game, Shadowrun: Dragonfall, reeeeaaaally hit those buttons for me pretty hardcore. The shit with corporations exploring and exploiting ancient magic with modern technology, why there are Great Dragons in the first place (protip: it's not evolution), the different Ages, etc.
I'd only briefly dipped my toe into the Cyberpunk/CP2020 stuff, but pretty quickly ditched it in favor of Shadowrun becuase of all of that stuff. I've always loved me some magic-tech crossovers, which probably isn't surprising given that my favorite video game as a kid was Final Fantasy 6 (3 in the US, I think, until the rerelease on mobile) where it was a pretty core thing to the game.
He reminded me too much of the angsty weird-haired Japanese RPG androgynous emo chars to be likable.
See, I don't usually have a problem with those characters, in general. But I think maybe he reminded me too much of Squall in Final Fantasy 8, who I most defs did despise in almost every possible way.
Although I am confused at calling him androgynous, cause he's all strong jaw and prominent nose.
Pretty much all of the elves tend towards a bit of androgyny, really.
When has trying to explain the appeal of a character you love to someone who doesn't like the character ever actually accomplished anything?
If that was rhetorical I get that, I've said much the same, but I tend to be a bit more open minded in looking at characters in modern RPGs. Some of the reasons characters are my favorites are because of particular moments, and with the way Bioware in particular sets up its games it's almost (or entirely) impossible to get every moment for every character, even some pretty well defining ones. It's entirely possible that, in particular because I didn't like Fenris much to start with, I rarely ever used him outside of where I absolutely had to (like his companion questline). As a result I missed probably 90% of his banter or input in particular scenes, etc.
So if it's just a general for Fenris that would be hard to quantify, no it probably won't accomplish anything to say it again, but if there were particular moments that stick out in memory I'd be interested to hear them. I don't hate him, he just kind of aggravated me with his angry-mopey thing. Like he was going to flip his hair in disdain at everything, all the time.
I will say that I didn't play Awakening and went straight from Origins to 2 and didn't like Anders at all the first round.
On one hand, you should play Awakening. It's a lot of fun, and a good game. On the other, you might be a much angrier adult after you see what they did to Anders. It'd be like if they did a new Next Generation series but in the down time between Picard became a hardcore alcoholic 24/7 who had developed a brain tumor that caused him to become a misogynist. And wouldn't stop hitting on Wesley. >_<
Varric and Isabela are just cruel both being rogues because I always had to choose between them for my party.
I thought they were cruel because I enjoyed both characters but never wanted to take rogues with me because they'd be taking up a valuable wizard slot.
@Roz
That's how I feel about it mostly as well, though I could have done without the horrible butchering of Anders or anything to do with Fenris.
At the very least the 'Secrets of Power' stuff (Never Deal With A Dragon, Choose Your Enemies Carefully, and Find Your Own Truth), though I'd tack on Never Trust An Elf.
That'll get you pretty well immersed in Shadowrun, though most of the tech stuff is way out of date by this point.
Also the Cleric Quintet.
@Wizz said:
Wait is it too late to say I would play it ironically
It's never too late for that. Never.
I post this in RL Anger, though to be fair I actually laughed out loud multiple times while reading this:
Pat Robertson compares Buddhism to an infection.
Technically I think he's comparing all religions to infections, which is even more lulz, and my favorite line is, on the subject of working around Buddhists at your place of employment:
βAnd I think your best thing at that point is to withdraw with dignity,β Robertson said. βGet out of that environment because theyβre going to get to you before you get to them.β
Italicized for emphalulz.
@Arkandel said:
@HelloRaptor said:
@Arkandel said:
@HelloRaptor But... Sturm. My 17 year old self hates you for those hateful comments. Also, I haven't read the series since then so screw you, it's awesome!
Man, Sturm was like my least favorite character in that series after Tanis.
... Tanis was my second most favorite character in that series after Tanis.
We need to duel.
Assuming you mean Tanis was your favorite character after Sturm, which as far as I can tell makes you my nemesis, because goddamnit man.
Sturm was everything wrong with Paladins in D&D for nearly his entire run, and Tanis just... agh. Yeah dude, your mom got raped by a bandit, your elf family treated you like shit, everybody are assholes. Wah wah wah.
Kaz & Huma > Sturm for the archetype. Not from the same time period, but still.
Hmmm. Now that I think about it I suppose Sturm ties with Caramon for my second least favorite. And in this particular iteration, I do mean crappy, yeah.
I liked Flint, Tasslehoff, and Raistlin, from the main crew. Riverwind I don't remember much about. Goldmoon was okay, but for Dragonlance Clerics I liked Crysania better, at least post-blindness.
My favorite characters from the world in general are probably Lord Soth (best ending/death of all), Kaz, Palin, and Dalamar if you take into account all the side stuff he's done.
Whew. I haven't thought about all of that shit in a long ass while.
I know that shit stirrer is troublemaker, and troublemakers stir up trouble, but I'm blanking on how to parse disturb in there instead. Trouble disturber doesn't work, nor does disturbing up trouble.
Canadians are weird.
@SG said:
@Shebakoby who the fuck says shit stirrer?
Everybody? I mean, it's got a definition that pops up if you google it. It's in dictionary.cambridge.org and oxforddictionaries.com and enough more it'd be even more redundant to list them all. So if not everybody, enough so that it's a stupid question.
'Shit Disturber' has entries too, but mostly just as a Canadianism. Bunch of weirdos, obviously.
@Thenomain said:
@HelloRaptor said:
@Thenomain
Why yes, DA2 was crappy. Also I have forgotten what trolling means, possibly because I have been brainwashed by the common misconception that "making fun of" immediately means "trolling".I agree. I blame the overly sensitive nature started with Political Correctness and Maury Povich. Once again, I blame the 80s.
Pretty sure I'm not the one who can't tell one from the other here. But by all means, keep on being you.
@Arkandel said:
@HelloRaptor But... Sturm. My 17 year old self hates you for those hateful comments. Also, I haven't read the series since then so screw you, it's awesome!
Man, Sturm was like my least favorite character in that series after Tanis.
@Arkandel said:
AD&D has two things going for it in my own head.
- Nostalgia.
- A fuckload of AD&D novels (the Dragonlance Twins saga, the Drizzt stuff, all those Harpers books, etc) which I used to read when I was a teenager. So, also nostalgia, but some of those weren't bad.
Also, nostalgia.
The early Dragonlance stuff is... not good. I mean the writing itself, and the dialogue, is really just painful to read. I didn't really notice at the time, but I was a kid so probably didn't care. There's stuff that came later that was markedly better, but the original books just hit cringeworthy when I went back to read them later.
@Coin said:
@HelloRaptor said:
@Coin said:
You know what I would probably dig? A MUSH in the setting of The Death Gate Cycle books by Tracy Hickman and Mercedes Lackey. I mean, some parts of the books are hard to slog through, but the actual story and the settings are so neat. Especially if you tweaked it a little so people could travel through the different worlds.
I dunno, fun as they were to read, you'd have to advance things pretty far to be worth it, since prior to Haplo there was no real travel between the worlds, and they more or less just suck as lone worlds without interconnection (which was kind of the point).
But hey at least it's finally a fantasy setting where anachronistic references aren't totally out of place. >_>
(Dibs on Zifnab.)
Or you could use the settings with a tweak and not necessarily follow the storyline from the books. I did emphasize setting.
If you have dibs on Zifnab, I get dibs on the dragon. So I can snark at you.
As long as you keep the Sartan and Patryn. If I don't get to play quantum wizards, it's just not worth it.
@Coin said:
You know what I would probably dig? A MUSH in the setting of The Death Gate Cycle books by Tracy Hickman and Mercedes Lackey. I mean, some parts of the books are hard to slog through, but the actual story and the settings are so neat. Especially if you tweaked it a little so people could travel through the different worlds.
I dunno, fun as they were to read, you'd have to advance things pretty far to be worth it, since prior to Haplo there was no real travel between the worlds, and they more or less just suck as lone worlds without interconnection (which was kind of the point).
But hey at least it's finally a fantasy setting where anachronistic references aren't totally out of place. >_>
(Dibs on Zifnab.)
@Roz said:
I do think that ME3 is the best of that trilogy because for me it was a near-perfect game until the last twenty minutes.
Yeah. I only ranked 2 over 3 because of that last bit.
@Thenomain
No amount of trolling turns 'least favorite of these awesome things' into 'the crappy one'.
I've played through DA:I six times now, which is way more than I played through any of the previous installments, and it's easily my favorite one. >_>
I luckily did not have to deal with it on my Xbox 360. I saw the difference for AC4 on 360 and my PC and I made a conscious effort to abandon my 360 except for a few legacy games.
There's a 60fps fix for the PC game, you just have to turn it on AFTER the initial cutscene/intro bit for the game, and never have it on if you're going to do multiplayer. It made so much shit look so much better.
Games like this on console just make me grind my teeth. That people who have the option for both choose a console version is just insanity.
Edit: I'll also happily give them my money for ME:A. Honestly as much as I have bitches about all of the games at one point or another, none of them haven't felt like they were worth the money to me, and I'm happy to have played all of them. My general enjoyment for DA games is probably DA:I > DA:A > DA:O > DA2, and for ME it'd be ME2 > ME3 > ME1.
ME1 gets lots of story love but it was so supported by what might just be the single most shitty equipment mechanics and inventory management I've ever seen, to the point where it actually sucked the fun out of the game. It was much more fun to play through later with a cheat just to give myself good gear and never pick up anything inventory related.
@The-Tree-of-Woe said:
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Wizards_of_Thay
In the 4E timeline, their Grand Poobah of Necromancy launched a coup and kicked everybody else out, and they sort of/kind of face turned? The rest of the Zulkirs stopped him from becoming a god, died in the process, and now the Red Wizards are... magic item peddlers and wizards for hire? I guess?
Well, they'd been using the pretense of being magic item peddlers for a long time to give their enclaves not just legitimacy, but to get people to rely on their services. It looks like when Szass Tam tried to go all godlike and the rest of their leaders sacrificed themselves stopping him, all the disparate Red Wizards decided the nationalist party line shit was for the birds and they might as well just claim their various enclaves for themselves and go legit. Ish. Legitish.
Goddamn Szass Tam. >_>