@jetfire_158 said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Hi, I would like to join this game, but it seems I have been mistaken for some troll named "Tiana" and have been sitebanned before even finishing chargen.

This is a good indication that you should save yourself a lot of headache and wasted time by avoiding this place. Apparently he has done this to multiple people with multiple instances of being dead wrong about things. He's a raging narcissist who doesn't want you on his game if you so much as disagree with him. And if there's a problem, you have to resolve it the way he wants you to or he'll give you the boot. He doesn't want to create an inclusive community, quite the opposite. He wants to exclude anyone and everyone who doesn't fit his own skewed perceptions on how roleplaying should go.

Someone explain to this lunatic the concept of wrongfun.

He's taken incidents from 5 years ago that he's still traumatized by and overreacted by taking a cleaver to the rules, feats, and talents in SWSE with no continuity. For example, he's made all the lightsaber styles more powerful, but then targets players that want to make a lightsaber duelist.

Its one thing if someone who was a problem 5 years ago returns and causes the same problems, but like was mentioned before, this whole game is being warped and twisted by ghosts of 5 years ago haunting an inexperienced, first time staffer that let all the imaginary, non-existent power to go to his head.

Run while you still can.

@Olsson said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Just to give an opposing voice. I've been on the game for a a week or two now and I have had no bad experiences at all. Obie's new as a game runner, and some of the changes to rules maybe aren't wholly thought through but to me that isn't some cardinal sin. Obie's been wholly welcoming to any questions as far as I can see, and has been accommodating to every person I've seen. Taking suggestions freely, asking for opinions on many things.

Much of what you described I experienced as well. Seemed very easygoing and helpful... until he wasn't anymore.

Make sure if you have an "opinion" you agree with him and support what he's done. If you disagree or try to steer him back to something sensible, he'll suggest you don't belong there or ban you outright. Sometimes both.

If he asks for feedback, don't fall for it. Remember Admiral Ackbar's warning.

Yes, please! Bring it back! I want to bitch about the travesty on Liberation that the mage wiz just put his entire sphere through.

@secretfire said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Not that the oldbie tried, as far as I could tell, but he did chase them when they ran, and the other oldbies seemed pretty dang annoyed.

He didn't just chase them. He tried to use his dinosaur equipment warehouse to jetpack up to the escape vehicle and blow it up with planted explosives (all in one round, btw) to kill them and their evac shuttle while those still standing were in full on retreat. It wasn't enough that he dominated the entire scene with his bloated xp and stupidly ridiculous equipment. He had to try to kill everyone he could.

There's a Star Wars game on Ares now running the FATE system set right after Ep 6. No promises on how good it is. YMMV.

Right now, it seems like a circle jerk of staff characters, who are supposedly just regular PCs. But maybe that's just because there aren't very many other players. The fact that the head Jedi is a dark side power using General of the New Republic forces, who has the complete Jedi archives in his head and thinks all the other Jedi before him understood the force all wrong gives me doubts that the place is serious.

That and their Star Wars universe has kaiju that are eating planets.

But if people were looking for a place to play Star Wars (or Star Wars adjacent), it is an option. Look it up on Ares.

ETA: Nevermind this place is hot garbage. Full of staff alts who get all the cool fun handwaves but any other characters get nitpicked to death for not fitting theme, definite circlejerk, there are like 5 non-staff players but it takes days for requests to get done for anyone not staff. Stay far away.

Yes, please! Bring it back! I want to bitch about the travesty on Liberation that the mage wiz just put his entire sphere through.

@Olsson said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Just to give an opposing voice. I've been on the game for a a week or two now and I have had no bad experiences at all. Obie's new as a game runner, and some of the changes to rules maybe aren't wholly thought through but to me that isn't some cardinal sin. Obie's been wholly welcoming to any questions as far as I can see, and has been accommodating to every person I've seen. Taking suggestions freely, asking for opinions on many things.

Much of what you described I experienced as well. Seemed very easygoing and helpful... until he wasn't anymore.

Make sure if you have an "opinion" you agree with him and support what he's done. If you disagree or try to steer him back to something sensible, he'll suggest you don't belong there or ban you outright. Sometimes both.

If he asks for feedback, don't fall for it. Remember Admiral Ackbar's warning.

@jetfire_158 said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Hi, I would like to join this game, but it seems I have been mistaken for some troll named "Tiana" and have been sitebanned before even finishing chargen.

This is a good indication that you should save yourself a lot of headache and wasted time by avoiding this place. Apparently he has done this to multiple people with multiple instances of being dead wrong about things. He's a raging narcissist who doesn't want you on his game if you so much as disagree with him. And if there's a problem, you have to resolve it the way he wants you to or he'll give you the boot. He doesn't want to create an inclusive community, quite the opposite. He wants to exclude anyone and everyone who doesn't fit his own skewed perceptions on how roleplaying should go.

Someone explain to this lunatic the concept of wrongfun.

He's taken incidents from 5 years ago that he's still traumatized by and overreacted by taking a cleaver to the rules, feats, and talents in SWSE with no continuity. For example, he's made all the lightsaber styles more powerful, but then targets players that want to make a lightsaber duelist.

Its one thing if someone who was a problem 5 years ago returns and causes the same problems, but like was mentioned before, this whole game is being warped and twisted by ghosts of 5 years ago haunting an inexperienced, first time staffer that let all the imaginary, non-existent power to go to his head.

Run while you still can.

@BroadStreetBully said in If you work hard, son, maybe someday you'll RP:

It isn't so hard to find RP, but most of it is found elsewhere. The MU* world is kind of petering out.

Where would that be?

@Warma-Sheen said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

@Jynxbox said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Does that include you?

Unfortunately yes. I was super excited about this game but have since opted out. Apologies for bailing.

At least until the game is in a more completed state. Maybe after beta is over it might be better for me to go back and be a part of that community.

That sucks for everyone then. Your stories were epic. I was curious to see how those would go in a mainstream faction. I hope you come back and give it another try at some point.

@Warma-Sheen said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

@GreenFlashlight Well, if it helps, I don't think anyone involved in any of this plays on the game anymore, whether through their own choice or @Obie 's, so that might be a good thing for anyone still looking to play.

Does that include you?

@secretfire said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

@Jynxbox (Seraph, I presume?)

Nope. Cisstis.

@secretfire said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Escaping from certain fights is enough to be a win. So is 'getting the mission done'. So like, if your mission is to "accomplish X" - and you then focus on the fight instead of "accomplish X"; you've failed. Whether it be to get a code disk away, or to save npcs, or whatever; if your first thought going into a fight is the conflict, you should ask yourself "is there a good character and story reason for this" and talk to the player. Really. You have no idea how often this kept me alive. That doesn't mean they won't spontaneously try and kill you again the next day, mind you. But if you are careful you can minimize the risks. It's not as hard or as impressive as it sounds.

None of this applies to the nonsesnse about how everyone else is trying to kill you and you gloriously outwitted them all - without completely discounting the other players in the scene with you. You somehow believe that other people and other characters are not a factor in the outcome of a scene?

@secretfire said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

What you really mean (and I know this from personal experience) is you want to win, you don't want to have to do all that much for it, and you want to feel like a hero. But numbers don't win fights, not in a MUSH, and they don't make you a hero. Neither does saying your a hero.

No idea what weird tangent you spun off on here... Are you talking about rp or game system mechanics? Cause those are totally different things.

@secretfire said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

Regarding the codebase, I did gloss over stuff. There was actually a lot more insanity then I portrayed. I mean, you didn't have to keep playing there either.

I didn't.

@secretfire I appreciate you illustrating the favoritism and absurdity involved in the previous game. It was indeed just that dumb. The fact that your "level 5" character was so involved and invested with every major NPC in the game says quite a bit.

However, if you expect anyone to believe your tiny little "level 5" survived and defeated all the odds and obstacles you describe on wits alone (everyone take a shot each time @secretfire humblebrags about how clever or smart she and Tolssk are), then you must think everyone reading this is an idiot. Anyone who has ever played a d20 game knows that's not a thing, especially over and over again. If you're winning that much against all those odds its because you cheesed the system.

And to be very clear, I'm not accusing you of anything and I don't know what your sheet looked like. I'm just telling you straight up that I don't believe you.

There's so much in your post that's eyerolly or just wrong that I'd be here all day addressing it so I'll just pick two parts that inform my opinion of your point of view.

@secretfire said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

2. Vapaad was neurotic and insane and never around. The place was basically run by Ataru, who was an amazing GM until he took it over in a staff revolt when Vaapad kept getting more and more crazy. Not Tolssk Crazy. Not 'Hog Pit' Crazy. Bat!@#!#@ @!##!@!@# mad, crazy. Like, Trump Crazy, metaphorically speaking. It then became Dawn of Defiance. Eventually he got busy and left, and there was a third headwiz. I'd left by that point. That was years after the switchover.

Talk about revisionist history! "It then became Dawn of Defiance." So the game just up and turned itself into a brand new game? And gave itself to Ataru? The staff stole the game wholesale from Vaapad. I don't care how crazy Vaapad was, you don't steal someone's entire game. If you have issues with someone's game you leave and you start your own brand new game, not a stolen db where you continue on like nothing happened.

That's such a dick move. And you gloss over it like its nothing. Why? Because just like with Tolssk you seem to remember things, intentionally or unintentionally from your own very biased point of view where the people you like or get along with may do really bad things but its totally justified.

Just no.

@secretfire said in Star Wars Republic d20 SAGA - (Prequel Era):

And neither does that excuse silently banning him, especially after he spent days saying he preferred not to play the character again even for Beta, because it would start issues. I literally personally saw him say that multiple times in cgen before bringing the bit IC. We both opposed bringing back the old bits, and said so.

I also opposed bringing back the old bits. So I didn't. I made a new one. That was an option. Were you unaware? Both you and Tolssk seem to think it is somehow in your favor that despite not thinking this is a good idea, you went ahead and did it anyway. It is not. If you're doing something you know is bad for the game and shouldn't be done just cause you can, it doesn't mitigate the crappiness of what you're doing. It makes it worse.

Also, feel free to keep railing about how bad the Jedi players were. Everyone does on every SW game ever. That's nothing new. Same old complaints, on every game: "Jedi are all pompous, whiny, entitled brats who want everything to go their way." "Dark siders are all selfish, overpowered, twinks who just want to kill everything." Congrats, that's just describing the Star Wars trilogies.

@Malkleth You were always just as childish and whiny as the worst on the game. If things weren't going your way you'd give a shitty one or two sentence pose and would put no effort into anything except when you were "winning" and things were going your way. You are no different 5 years later on and the game is better for not having you on it.

Edit added: @secretfire He wouldn't have lost the fight in question. Not by a long shot. He'd have just lost one roll in it. He wasn't anywhere close to losing that fight at any point in the scene.