Posts made by Sammi

I would petition you to add +watch to this framework, for two reasons: 1) +watch is effectively +who, but constrained to a specific list; 2) when using +who and +where, it can be very useful to see people you're watching for be highlighted.

@Vorpal said:

For a while I was part of the classical music community and performed several live concerts, but I haven’t done that in a while. I still attend concerts by friends in both popular and classical music fields- one of the staple duos there being Jaycatt and Frogg, two old friends of mine.

I'm glad they're still doing stuff. I went to a few of their concerts many seasons ago, and I liked it.

@Taika said:

To compensate for the limitations and thank for their hard work, staff bits will be awarded 1 xp/week to be used after they retire from staff.

Don't do it. I appreciate the retirement clause, but I still think it's a bad idea, mostly because a lot of people have had bad experiences with staff getting things above what normal players get.

Potential for staff to get Beats for being awesome. Still discussing that.

You can do this, to an extent. If a staffer who runs a plot gets the same sort of IC reward as a player who runs a plot, and someone else handles the job, there wouldn't be any imbalance there. It would just be someone running a plot and getting some extra beats thrown their way for it. Some people might still grumble, but everybody would have access to the same things.

A cross sphere system for tracking boons.

Boons are terribly vague. Code for this wouldn't be hard, but what would need to happen first is a wiki page with a solidly written description of the culture of the supernatural creatures, why it encourages paying in favors, and what sorts of services people consider equivalent (as well as what happens when someone doesn't follow through).

@Lilli
That's Theno's chargen, which I linked at the top of the thread, for the Chronicles of Darkness rules (nWoD 2.0), which is very new and the only games I've known to run it have been on MUX.

The only existing CoD chargen that I know of is coded for MUX, so I'd go with that unless one of the coders around here really wants to modify it to fit Penn.

@Apos said:

@Sammi Every scene in public rooms would be open in some games, to make it not open would be a break of the game culture and incredibly rude, since you are forcing everyone else to conform to your own sandbox, ie being very entitled and imposing upon everyone else on the game. In that environment of course individuals would rp immediately, since being in public rooms is an actual advertisement and invitation to RP.

I really think you are confusing distinct and different gaming cultures with entitlement. Speaking to someone oocly would be flat out rude, since you are destroying the mood of their scene by doing so, much in the same way spamming people with ooc chatter in an intense scene would be on most games.

Like I said, I don't believe that it should be treated as a matter of taste. I don't care if there are some games where someone coming into a scene gets treated like royalty. Any game where people in an ongoing scene are not permitted to take their scene elsewhere to preserve the narrative is doing a disservice to the people already in a scene.

In some parts of America, it's considered "polite" to lie outright. You are not permitted to give an honest answer to an honest question and if someone says, "Bless your heart," what they really mean is, "You're a fucking moron." That is a different culture, yes. Any culture that promotes dishonesty and toxicity is a bad culture, just like any culture that promotes the idea that an individual deserves to be waited on hand and foot. Some cultures believe in beating gays or mutilating vulvas or waging war for their gods. "It's another culture" is not a legitimate defense unless it can be applied to all cultures. It falls immediately if you can indicate that the other culture is harmful. I believe that Kanye's culture is mostly harmful to Kanye, hence why I was trying to explain some things about being collaborative. On the other side, while I enjoy helping people, I tire of those who exhibit learned helplessness and I feel like fully able people who need the same help repeatedly are unnecessarily burdensome.

@Kanye-Qwest said:

@Sammi
Are you staff on this game?

Nope, and nor am I vindictive enough to volunteer because of you.

@Ganymede said:

Sometimes, I enter a public room where there's RP going on, and I politely state that I'll make my entering pose a couple of poses down the line. I didn't ask the existing players where I could join or not, and it is reasonable to presume that I could if the scene was taking place in a public room. If my inclusion is inappropriate or unwanted, it is reasonable to presume that the existing participants would inform me of that and take their RP elsewhere. As you will likely concur, expecting people to take private scenes in a public place to a +temproom is reasonable.

It's very reasonable (and I stated at the beginning that I believe people in a private scene should always vacate if other people want to use the public space), but all of that relies on some amount of OOC interaction even if you don't explicitly ask permission to join. When you jump in on an ongoing scene, you're going to first find out where and when the scene is taking place as well as a rough idea of the background activity. Often, the next participant in the queue will bulk up their existing pose in order to provide a set for the newcomer. All of those things that make for a collaborative experience fall under OOC communication, which Kanye posited is negative (since people take it personally).

I think you may be taking Kanye's comments too literally.

This may be, but Kanye has yet to make any attempt to revise or clarify their statements. They have called me a bitch multiple times. That sort of rejoinder is consistent with my reading of Kanye's statements as an indicator of personality and social expectations. When I make a reasoned and civil criticism and the result is being sworn at, I am disinclined to question my initial reading.

@Apos
People having a private scene in a public place should take it to a +temproom if there's any conflict. The ease and availability of +temprooms makes that a no-brainer. The sense of entitlement is walking into a room and trying to enter a scene without making any attempt to ascertain if the scene is open or even what time of day it is in the narrative, and it is compounded by "entering" the scene with a non-interactive pose which places the burden of including the random new person on everybody else there. @Kanye-Qwest insists on no OOC communication. Do you want someone trying to enter your scene without so much as saying hi?

Some households have cultures where the parents tell their children that they're special and deserve all the goodies. When those children go out into the big, wide world, the burden should not be on the rest of us to continue to give them what their parents told them they inherently deserved. I stand firmly against the proposal that this kind of behavior should be considered a matter of taste, and I believe that formative environments that indoctrinate people with this idea that others will always stretch to help them are maladaptive for the people who come out of them and a net burden on the greater community.

Jesus, you're unpleasant. It must be really terrible going through life with such an antagonistic attitude. I revise my earlier assessment: you're not tone-deaf, you just need people to dislike you and not want to play with you in order to justify your feelings toward the world.

@Kanye-Qwest said:

LOL you mad, though?

I realize that in your world you might think that people offer assistance with no expectation of gain when they're angry and that loquacity and criticism are indications of wrath. You have also stated your belief that only OOC communication (and not lack of communication) is a cause of people getting irritated with you (which is patently false). Quoting for relevance:

@Kanye-Qwest said:

All done with no OOC communication, so there's nothing to take personally.

Frankly, you shouldn't trust any of your intuitions. People don't behave the way you think they do, so stop making any assumptions and you'll fare a lot better.

I'm done trying to help you socialize better. Go off and annoy people in public places and then get all confused and huffy when they don't take kindly to it.