@Coin said:
i'm pretty sure the first command (the template setting one) is wrong. Might wanna fix that, whoever's page that is, since the rest will not work without that.
That's my page, and it's right. Check out +help chargen and stat template, and you'll see that the first thing you type in is "stat/template human".
@Kanye-Qwest said:
Darn. Well, sort of darn. I can't re-use the character template I made the last time I struggled my simple ass through WoD cg.
This is one of the occasions where, if you ask nicely, other people might be willing to give you what you need, but if you don't ask and just complain about not being given everything, they'll probably help you out anyway while resenting you, because people are just bitches like that.
Oh, so not only do you find a scene and automatically assume that you're entitled to participate, but when you get into one, you make a banal, non-interactive pose and then wait for other people to do the work to include you. And there's nothing to take personally in that? You are remarkably tone-deaf.
Yes, I am entitled and insensitive for stating my public RP preferences.
Like this. Obviously, I'm not saying you're entitled for stating your preferences. I'm saying that your preferences indicate an intense sense of entitlement. I'm saying that what you do when you walk into a room where people are RPing is just think about yourself and then get upset when people don't bend over backwards to accommodate you.
Here's an experiment: try asking first. I think you'll find more people willing to accommodate you if you give them some warning. Say, "Hey, I'd like to join your scene, but I'm really bad at giving reasons for people to include me, so would you mind making an excuse to allow me to RP with you?"
@Kanye-Qwest said:
You think it is necessary for people to ask your permission to rp around/at you in public, and I'm uncompromising?
Coin put it lightly. I'd say "entitled and insensitive". If you walk into a public place and start posing at people without so much as a by-your-leave, you have no idea what's going on with their scene. You pose walking in from a long day of work, except that in the scene it's morning. You pose a crowd, when the people in the scene have agreed on the place being empty. You walk in and expect to be accommodated no matter what the people who were already there had going on. They are absolutely within their rights to just GTFO, but most people are nice enough that they're going to try to explain to you that you're being a boor.
Something else with similar circumstances is the Divergent series. That's a bit more high-tech than what you're looking for, but it can be good for visuals.
The "problem" with crumbling cities is that mostly just concrete crumbles, and that takes a while unless the construction was shoddy. Housing projects and Soviet block buildings crumble quickly. Buildings constructed for the use of rich people tend to be much less crumbly. You can either play with this, and emphasize the distinction between durable steel towers and collapsing concrete apartments, or you can subvert it and roll into the apocalypse an excuse for the skyscrapers to be degrading too.
That's what I do, anyway. Some people aren't so good at dealing civilly with things that embarrass them. They need to make it not their fault, so they try to be aggressive enough to put the other person on the defensive.
@Taika said:
I've been tossing around the idea of working on a 2.0 game for a while.
There are a lot of second editions of things. You might want to start your sales pitch with something more descriptive rather than forcing people to scan through the whole post to figure out which game system's second iteration you're thinking of.
One with a near future 'world collapsing on itself' type of theme and active overarching loose plotline.
Define near future. Preferably with your choice of movies, books, TV shows, or video games to clarify the genre conventions you're looking for.
A code base (I know there's 2.0 code, but no idea how to install it. Oops.)
It's here, and it should be pretty easy to install. I'm going to do it in the near future and I'm not asking Theno for any help unless I really fuck up.
And ideas on location, etc. I can build and desc, etc, but not so hot at hammering out tiny details on my own.
Location isn't exactly a tiny detail. The specifics of which streets have coffee shops are tiny details. Your location should play into whatever big genre elements you want to emphasize. People might ignore it to some extent, but having a place that jives with your big themes helps the game feel cohesive.
@mietze said:
It shocked me, because I'd always come from a culture that if someone doesn't want people wandering into a public gridspace then it's on them to leave to a private room; but obviously other people come from the opposite!
Sometimes people get into very personal scenes in public places. When this happens, I try to remember to go to a +temproom, but it's not always something you think of until someone else shows up and you have to give an awkward explanation of why the people already in the scene wouldn't be happy with a random addition.
Strategic hangout creation is great. When there's an establishment that is known throughout the sphere, it's easy for any character to just be there and run into heretofore unknown others. And that is usually my go-to for introductory RP between characters who haven't got much in common, but that's not what I would describe as "wandering the city" RP.
What causes problems for me is when I'm sitting on the grid (maybe I'm descing, or planning a location for something, or checking the layout for reference for something else) and somebody walks in and just starts. Or when I agree to a scene, not much has been decided, we land in an IC location, and they make some set where their character is just out and about, doing nothing of import. I have had panic attacks during my less-good days.
I'm also not in the habit of complaining about these things unless I feel compelled to provide a counterpoint for someone who bemoans the lack of spontaneous scenes.
@Arkandel said:
Organically finding RP in my experience works only when the local MU* culture is focused on making a couple of hangouts popular enough for people to keep going there 'in case someone is around'. This isn't a universal solution either - it can end up making those few rooms so spammy people avoid them, for example.
It's also not a one-size-fits-all solution in that some people (*hand raise*) simply can't do "wandering the city, who knows what will happen" as the basis for any sort of plausible narrative progression. Part of why I like MUSHing is that there's a wealth of information available about characters. It's easy to figure out who these people are and why they might plausibly be crossing paths before anything happens, and that's necessary in order to turn off my social anxiety.
@Thenomain said:
I wish M&M on the whole didn't terrify me.
Third Edition is easier because it doesn't use as much d20 stuff. The system is designed to more tightly present the sort of gameplay that it caters to.
You can also edit your posts.
@Thenomain said:
The core code should be updated. Please let me know if I missed something or if something changed between WoD and CoD and I missed it. Thanks.
Will do. You'll see some pull requests if I find anything. 
It seems mostly straightforward, but I have one question. In "0 - Introduction.txt" you say,
Tags are meant to be used by higher game systems to determine validations. ... Tags are never used for storage.
In "1c - Tags.txt", the first words are
Tags for the Core WoD stats.
(Later, use this for page number and note references)
Those two statements of intent sound conflicting, unless I'm thinking more broadly than you were about what constitutes storage.
What's the IC impetus for these predatory Sanctified moving to Nevada?
@nyctophiliac said:
I would be happy to have you on the team, even if it is temporarily just to do the basicset up!
We can figure out a time in the upcoming week where we're going to be on simultaneously and I can get the server started for you.
Maybe you could show me how to input merits and i could take care of it?
Oh, that's already taken care of. Go here and Ctrl-F for any Merit name you can think of from GMC (it hasn't been updated for the handful that appeared first in CoD, but I know Theno has them entered into a file somewhere).
Like I said, I'm vaguely interested. And the fact that you've not withered or become uncivil after being given the third degree is appealing. I don't feel like it would be responsible for me to commit to anything long-term, but turning on a game and then taking a few free afternoons to put together code that I mostly already know where to find? That I can do. @Thenomain's GMC chargen already has Vampire and Werewolf. The code up at Github doesn't have the Merits that were added in CoD, but I suppose he just hasn't uploaded that yet since they're active on BitN.