@Rook I'm upvoting yours AND BigDaddyAmin's just to pile it three-deep.

In an effort to be more positive than the (very) popular and completely valid RL peeves thread, I am starting this one.

Listening to pretty much everything They Might Be Giants have ever produced while getting drunk on Sunday, knowing I don't have to work Monday. Hell yes.

Privacy is a privilege. It is also an achilles heel. If you make privacy some kind of blanket policy that applies in all situations you will hamstring yourself. The reason for privacy should not really be to protect anybody; it is simply because not everything is everybody's business.

If you have a bad player who is making a mistake or who perhaps has some kind of issue that they can't help or for whatever reason are too immature to help, or who would be unduly hurt by airing their dirty issue, by all means be private. It will cause harm to air their business to people who really have no call to be involved.

If you have a predator, someone who is preying upon others and who is hiding behind the protection of privacy, then expose that person. They're out there. Not everybody is innocent or can (or more often wants to) change. Screw them. Post logs of their private tirades if you like. Dump them out the back of the boat for the sharks so you can move along with the rest of your boat full of players, because they're the ones you should be protecting. There is a very good reason that trials are held in public where everyone has an opportunity to see the evidence and hear every side of things as well as the final verdict.

It's a game, not a neighborhood with real people who have lives to live and real jobs that hang on their fate on this game. Kick the bad ones out when they have it coming. They can go do something else other than taking a shit on your players and then giggle about it when they're allowed to keep on keeping on.

@Sunny said:

Can we PLEASE stop making rules based on the very few bad apples, and instead start getting rid of the bad apples? This isn't at you, @Silver, but an illustration of the trend.

I get tired of people utilizing +where to see who I'm playing with so they can page me some snarky horseshit about whoever that person is or try to give me a hard time about them, or sexually harass or slut-shame me about how they know I'm TSing them, "collecting a harem", even when I'm not, or just to annoy me with their garbage.

I set myself unfindable and make unfindable builds all the time, and the problem becomes 75% solved. And I don't care. And anybody who doesn't like it can eat it! You wanna know where I am, stop being a creeper and ask me! So it probably should be at me, if it wasn't before, because I abuse the hell out of unfindable and will do it forever.

@Arkandel Screw them. They will sell you to Somalians if it occurs to them. Get them before they get you.

1. The ability to hit +where and tell where everybody is regardless of whether they'd like their location known is easily abused.
2. If people have the option to use Unfindable and they are choosing to use it, that says something about what their situation is. A good question might be: Why do you require them to be known at all times?
3. If the concern is that too many people are Unfindable and no one can tell where any RP is going on, that points to a larger cultural problem on the game. These problems start at the top. Punching down at individual players is not how you solve those.
4. Unfindable is not the same as Dark. It's more akin to taking your phone number off of the telemarketer list.
5. I really can't think of a reason to demand that people remain findable at all times except if you just have to know where specific people are without letting them know you're checking on that.

To recap: Unfindable helps to curb issues of abuse and misconduct, in situations where Unfindable seems to cause a problem I contend that the problem is most likely the whole game and not the MUX command, it is a privacy issue and not a sneaking up on people issue (to wit the person who has to find you all the time is the creepy party, not the person remaining private), there is a small element of social control to this whole argument, and I think the very subject is being questioned from the wrong perspective.

@Karmageddon said:

Kung Fury

Hell. Yes.

How did my life have any meaning before this was made?

@Insomnia said:

@Silver said:

I am now ignoring this thread.

Are you? Are you really?

Yes. Also ignoring this response!

@Coin Always with your excuses. All I hear is about how you think that one single ton of plot is adequate. Back in my day we ran five tons each and we liked it.

@GentlemanJack Re: The Magical Maltesian - I get this from so many people outside of Texas that pretty much any time someone that's never even spent time in Texas starts to criticize Texas to me I quietly and internally start putting little red flags next to their name and looking for a way to distance myself from them.

They're often the sort of people who see no problem with the vast humanitarian sins committed in China, India, Russia, and across the rest of the world, but Texas really bothers them somehow. Usually because people there dare to disagree with them on some political issue.

@Luna I heard a lot of that growing up from my own family. If I don't eat what was on my plate plus a second helping I got asked how come I don't like that food, etc.

Then people do it to each other in adulthood. Talk about pointless social programming.

Glow Cloud...

@Coin If you do this you need to find a way to include the transmogrifier.

@HelloRaptor I thought it was because cats are sluts.

@Ganymede That is easily one of the most amazing predators ever. I love leopards.

@2mspris I wish him luck, but I also hope he is not one of the clowns.

@Arkandel This is like every day of my life, man. Every day.

@HelloRaptor It's interesting that you bring up suspension of disbelief. This touches on something I really think about a bit when it comes to stories, and it is that in my opinion anyway the suspension of disbelief is most easily done when the setting and characters are structured in a way so as to be plausible. Given that it is one of the storyteller's jobs to help the experiencer (a word I use just to cover movie-watchers, TV-watchers, book-readers, etc) suspend that disbelief, I think the more skillful a storyteller is at embracing the plausible the better.

Unless you're telling a story in the form of a fable, which might be something like Flatland or Jonathan Livingston Seagull, or similar. In which case go hog wild.

@Coin I always wondered how come DC didn't go in for the idea that humans were an offshoot of the Kryptonians and that explains not only why they look the same, but why Kryptonians might have some interesting reactions with an Earth environment and how Jor-El knew to send his son here.

Then again comic books. So much is justified away by simply saying comic books.

@Arkandel said:

Some people are such asshats. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/breastfeeding-mother-baby-snatched-primark-154502930.html

If the facts in that story are true they fit the elements of Kidnapping in my jurisdiction.

One comment on the article reads, however:

"This has already been debunked. Security footage was reviewed and it never happened. Her description of the security guard didn't match any of the store's employees. This isn't the first time she's made allegations like this, although the baby snatching certainly upped the ante."

So it's important to question.