@Cirno I know, but the point is both don't mean shit or shouldn't. I have black friends and friends of the ethnicities you point out.

@ThatOneDude So... The down vote is for the meme or for feeling like one of the potential assholes this peeve would be addressing and that self loathing can only be expressed by a down vote?

If its the meme, enjoy another.

In regards to a new game... I'm hoping someone(s) can inject some sanity into whatever shitshow of a Law sphere @tragedyjones is trying to put together.

Sounds like there are some sane people out there and I hope they get heard

@somasatori said:

but there's always been a serious issue with people bitching about transplants and how they're "ruining the state of the city." Mostly people from California. Oregonians appear to treat Californians like the entire state conspired to kill their parents or something.

@Pyrephox Agreed.

The only exception to me would be something more than a PRP. Something like a game changing/and game wide event and meta story changing situation or whatever.

What about all of @Volund 's code? I swear he had something for Penn that was everything you'd need to stand up a game. I think he did the same for that other / newer code base as well right?

edit: like this right here https://github.com/volundmush/mushcode/tree/master/storyteller/nwod2

Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaat?!? No BTiLC?!

@skew said in Interest/Volunteer Check: Major Multisphere Chronicles of Darkness:

@ThatOneDude said in Interest/Volunteer Check: Major Multisphere Chronicles of Darkness:

In regards to a new game... I'm hoping someone(s) can inject some sanity into whatever shitshow of a Law sphere @tragedyjones is trying to put together.

Sounds like there are some sane people out there and I hope they get heard

Just speak plainly. You want to steal from FBI agents and shoot cops and not go to jail, because you like a game where you can break the law and not go to jail. Get that out of the way, and the conversation might get more productive.

To be fair... there was plans and plot to be had for the PC in question that included what I can only assume was consequences. If we speak of my PC , the FBI thing while super lame was whatever, tearing away the plot in place was "criminal"

Just saying let PLOT be PLOT from STs.

@tragedyjones said in Bump In The Night: A Chronicles of Darkness MUX:

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Message: 1/55 Posted Author
IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR THE FUTU Fri Jun 24 Sol Invictus

Dear BITN,

Effective June 26, 2016 I will be inviting Amoracchius to join me as Head Staff.

The reason is, I've just run out of jam. I will be maintaining my Wizard bit, as well as financial and final authoritative control of BITN. However, I am leaving the mundane responsibilities of maintaining plot and story, as well as player satisfaction, with Amoracchius. During the coming week(s) I imagine she will be implementing her vision of how she wishes the game to proceed.

The alternative to this, of course, would be to compeltely scuttle the game and leave everyone in the cold. At the request of my staff I have declined to do that at this time. If anyone has any questions, you may reach me at bitnmuxwiki@gmail.com.

-Sol Invictus

P.S. Coin@MSB is being made the Grand Vizier of Common Sense and Chief of Anger Mismanagement

Finally the game will be worth playing!

RL Peeve, writing a giant post and then deleting it cause you know the assholes reading it won't understand the real point.

We need more:

@Sundown said:

Whatever they're called, they fucking suck and you are dumb for defending/using them. Cheerfully yours.

ENJOY!

@tragedyjones said:

As per my usual, I will primarily focus on Chronicles of Darkness (formerly nWoD) in this, but I believe this can be applied to many games.

So you have a game. You put a lot of work into it. You build a theme you feel is awesome, and reflects how the game world should be.

Then you have a player who fucks it all up. Maybe they are just reckless, a Vampire who is shitting all over the masquerade. Or a Mage who is just cruising through life in an invisible car. Or a werewolf who is betraying his pack to every dick slinging stud they meet. WHATEVER.

So there are various ways this could be dealt with, and I am sure there are people who would bitch about whatever.

Ignoring it may or may not be feasible, depending on how private the behavior is. This is especially easy if it is kept so secretive that no one finds out. And probably the best choice there.

Another option is to try and discuss it with the player rationally and maturely OOC. Maybe offer an alternative.

The other extreme is to have the IC world react, via NPCs and/or encouraged PCs. If someone is being blatantly stupid, maybe they are spoken to or given a punishment for their actions.

What is fair? Is fair important?

If someone IC breaks IC rules then they get IC consequences. Seems pretty simple to answer.

If I act a fool and smack a cop, would I be shocked to wake up in jail? Not really nor should anyone in game assume they can do something that is against the rules/society norms and not be punished.

I will say I love these people btw, cause then I get to kill them.

For me I thought and think the upgrade is cool, to everyone else wigging out...

@Bobotron Well, have you seen John McAfee?

@Derp said:

@ThatOneDude said:

How you doing supporting that demon sphere?

Hey, if it were up to me, I would remove Demon entirely. It's a complete pain in the ass, and doesn't play nicely with others. Certain players make me want to send teams of hunter angels to drag them out of whatever hole they're in and use them as an example of why not to be stupid. But as an example of exactly what I'm talking about, @Coin has a vision for the game, and no matter what my personal beliefs on the matter are, I ultimately support what he wants to do with it. Because that's how this system works. So as much as you'd like to snark at me and continue to be petty and juvenile, the fact that you're still there is just testament to why having everything under one guiding vision is a good idea.

Word, I wait for the day Eerie returns with the rest of the demons but I think we all see the writing on the wall... But the game is a success so what would I know as a player?

@Coin But but but... MAGIC!

@Derp said:

@Ganymede said:

In short: I'm pretty sure I'm a good team player. But I'm the team player that will stand firm on issues that relate to my players or that will lead, in my experience, to bad outcomes. When that happens, I have to ask if I want to continue to volunteer on the team, or move on so as to avoid a messy game divorce.

See, I'm kind of with @Thenomain on this one in that what you think you're saying isn't necessarily coming off how you think you're saying it. To me, this reads:

"You might have a vision of the game, but I have a vision of the sphere, and if what I want to do isn't something that you want to allow in your game, then I'm going to be standoffish and obstinate about it until you either concede or I rage quit, no matter your justification for it because my opinion is ultimately the most important one and to hell with you if you can't see my logic."

I've known you to be a fairly reasonable, logical person, but this seems somewhat more antagonistic than what I've seen out of you previously, and definitely isn't something that I would rate very highly in a staff member I was looking to higher to help me manage my vision of a particular game. Perhaps give an example of what you mean, here, so that it comes off a bit less 'fuck you' and we can see what you have in mind?

@Derp, you make me:

How you doing supporting that demon sphere?

@The_Supremes hah! Good