@thenomain said in Make Evennia 'more accessible' - ideas?:

@griatch said in Make Evennia 'more accessible' - ideas?:

@sparks said in Make Evennia 'more accessible' - ideas?:

@griatch said in Make Evennia 'more accessible' - ideas?:

@Sparks
As said, I'm not the target audience, but it's a good start I think. Maybe you should (already in your README since that is the front-page of github), add links to the places in your code where people can find the concepts (finger, notifications etc) so they can quickly dive into the bits they are interested in.

That's an excellent idea. I've tried to clean it up a bit and add some hints on where to look.

Github even allows you to make clickable links to individual source files or lines of source files, so the opportunities to direct people into the code are many.
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Griatch

You can also add comments per line, can’t you? It would be a good way to load up the commentary without adding it to the inline comments.

You can link to lines, but I don't think you can add comments to existing code in the GitHub interface - you can only do so on code that is under review. Even if you could I suspect it would be highly unstable way to keep comments since that line number is likely to change rapidly as the code evolves. Linking to a line faces the same problem, which is why we most often links to modules than to lines unless the module is very stable and not likely to change much.

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Griatch

i will have to peek in and check things out!

@Thenomain @Arkandel yikes

For what it's worth, the more that I play mixed-universe games, the more I find that the disparity in power between Marvel & DC at the higher level characters gets more difficult to reconcile if you're using a numerical stat system. Heavyweights in the Marvel Universe just can't stack up to their DC counterparts. Thor, Hulk, and Juggernaut all top out around 100 tons of lifting, while Superman, Doomsday, and Wonder Woman surpass that by orders of magnitude. There's only been 1 time that I can think of when a Marvel character displayed DC-level strength, and that was in Secret Wars where the Hulk held up a mountain to keep himself and his companions from being crushed after it was dropped on them.

Yes, most of the times, the strength/power comparisons get handwaved in the comics, especially in the Marvel Vs. DC fights, but that's because the characters so rarely interact. On a MU, you have these characters interacting much more regularly, even if you only do 1 or 2 crossover events a year.

I'm probably in the minority, but I'm fairly burned out on FC super games. A lot of this has to deal with the heavy competition for the big name characters. With OC games, you can create obvious homages, but at least they're your character(s) and you can bring them to life without relying on previous comics canon, current comics storylines, or having to ret-con what a previous player may have done. You're also more free to write your own character without having to worry about how it might affect the prospect of a future player picking the character up at a later date.

It's ultimately just the difference between what I can do(a basic wiki) and what my friend was going to be able to do(a very pretty and themely wiki). I'm actually being very careful that it remains a project of love and that it does not become stressful. Which is why the progression has been so slow paced. That's one of the reasons we lost the wiki worker I think, it was becoming more stress than love so we both decided it would be best if we went another direction.

---> previous builder. I am happy to vouch that the other staffers on this game have been super pleasant to deal with. If I had had the time and energy I'd still be descing. Also the exits get all the messages automatically set up, so no need to dig into @succ etc unless you wanna.

@griatch said in Potential Supernatural Game:

@kumakun said in Potential Supernatural Game:

@faraday Nice! Ares is in Ruby right? I've always been curious about language. I'm leaning towards Evennia, because Python! but I'd /really/ like to work with Python 3+

Ruby and Python are pretty similar conceptually; each has their ups and downs, strengths and weaknesses.

Evennia is currently using Python 2. Next version of Evennia (0.8) which is soon coming out will be the last one to use that. Evennia 0.9 will use Python 3. But to be honest - I use Python 3 daily in a professional capacity and it's not like it's a big fundamental difference to switch between the Python versions.
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Very very true, and if it's moving to 3 soon it's even more reason to make the jump - and if you're not working with very many 3rd party packages you should be fine.

Right now I'm using Python to enhance my current MUX project. It'll be nice to not have to interface everything and use the same language from top to bottom. 🙂

While I might only play this on occasion for some random shit to do I really think this could work out in a mush environment and eould be excited to see where this idea goes

@skew The web integration was an appealing feature. Ideally it started off as a project to become a plug and play platform for anyone wishing to set up a WoD setting lacking a dedicated coder. Then branched into a concept of having all the ST tools available to anyone given the approval/flag from a handle.

I don't know anything about Rhost unfortunately but I'm willing to play with that as well once you finish. I've been following your progress. (Doozer)

Those folks on the discord/IRC are +1

@waller

Of course he has.

Because he’s pretty baller.

I didn't see it here, but automated/self-service xp spending is good stuff.

Happy Little Update: We need a werewolf lead, we have an admin/st. We also need a mortal TL, and an admin/ST. Eventually we will need a mage staffer and an Admin/ST. Are you interested in any of these things? Speak with Death over on our discord.

We are also nearly finished with Cgen and probably going to get some alpha testing done within the next week.

Descs are nearly done on the grid, we are working on a map.

I've made a list of things people want from the post over here and we're also beginning to start on those things.

@zombiegenesis Definitely! I've been hoping for a Unisystem MUSH and the game sounds awesome.

@faraday said in Player buy-in:

Even something as universally recognized as Star Wars can veer sharply in tone between A New Hope and Rogue One.

Heck, it gets worse than that. You could have the difference between Solo/Rogue One and The Force Unleashed.

I think that buy-in is critical, especially on original-theme games, but also media-based games. I also think the most important things for attaining and maintaining buy-in for players are:

Being very clear and up-front about Staff's vision. I still like the idea of a mission statement on the front page of a wiki describing Staff's vision of the setting. Having some examples of feel ("the game is set in the Dark Times, but more of a Solo version than a 'The Force Unleashed,'" or "True Grit -- the new one -- not American Outlaws," or "The Walking Dead not Shaun of the Dead") can only help too.

Talking to players who haven't bought in. Depending on their reaction, this can either be a Come-to-Jesus shape-up or ship-out, or it can be a gentle nudge and a query about what would help make the setting clearer.

cough https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/7/17660410/the-expanse-tabletop-rpg-kickstarter-green-ronin cough

Neat article about the actual creators of the show.

@coin Yeah, @Auspice was helpful enough to provide it above.

arise

From the depth of its two month old grave it rises once more! So, now that I am no longer MU*ing in any real capacity, my energy's back and I'm finally going to do that game test on Icons I was babbling about. Also having it set in what I have so far for the world etc. It's an overall little pre-alpha test thing.

@seraphim73 said in Open Sheets?:

@mietze said in Open Sheets?:

Would I want it on a huge impersonal ten alts for every player pvp disconnected/uninvolved staff game, no.

This is actually the type of game I would most want open sheets on. If Staff is uninvolved, you have no way of knowing if the player of the character your character is trying to kill is lying about their stats. Unless the game has open sheets, then you know for sure.

There's always the option of coded combat, and the like. On Arx, I can't see the sheet of the guy I'm fighting, but the rolls are all going on under the hood so it matters less.