Statements of intent, especially when they fly in the face of a trivial search on posting history, don't mean shit. At this point you're a hairsbreadth away from being Bane Mk. II not because of that one joke but because of a motherfucking HUGE HISTORY of posts that make you come across as, well, Bane Mk. II.
Statement of intent is nice. But the only thing that's going to edge you away from Banehood is action. Which means you're going to have to exercise something you've shown little desire or aptitude for in the past: self-control.
Make no mistake: I honestly don't know fuck all about you. I don't know who you are, who you played, where you played. (I avoid that section of the board as being largely irrelevant and slightly distasteful.) My impression of you as B-b-b-b-b-b-b-oote Man comes strictly from seeing you, over multiple threads, come across as quite possibly the most poorly-socialized person I've seen in MSB this side of the 4chan crowd that periodically tries to infest the place.
Enjoy the process of growth. Or indulge in the reputation of being Bane II. I personally don't care either way. You might.
Statements of intent, especially when they fly in the face of a trivial search on posting history, don't mean shit. At this point you're a hairsbreadth away from being Bane Mk. II not because of that one joke but because of a motherfucking HUGE HISTORY of posts that make you come across as, well, Bane Mk. II.
Didn't we just go over how hyperbole doesn't help?
I suppose that this is the RL Anger section, however.
@Ghost I don't think you were trying to make a jab at her, by asking about what kind of tequila the woman was given. I do think you were making light of something that affects a lot of people on this forum, in a way that lightens it, when it doesn't directly affect you. So, yeah, that is offensive and hurtful, to me. Hence why I posted.
I added this only because of this post following, not because I am looking to dogpile. It sounds as if you don't know if it was offensive. It was.
@Roz Right, that's why I'm stepping back before it turns into a thing.
I'm not looking to make a comment I made in the spirit of sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying to turn into myself or anyone being an outlet for the justifiable anger that should be felt from seeing that kind of abuse taking place.
My joke wasn't intended to make light of the abuse, I didn't make that clear, and in the interest of keeping things copacetic I'm stepping back from this thread for a bit.
I apologize if my joke, intention or not, was offensive to @Cupcake or anyone.
Carry on and have a better day. This week has been a nightmare so far.
#FreeFarfalla
@Ganymede: We did?
2000 posts is pretty sizable. I guess "motherfucking huge" is a judgement call, but … well … it qualifies for me at any rate. And when I consider that @Ghost has gone into the ignore pile three times in the past three months or so alone based on his utter stupidity, I'd say that the comparison to Bane is apt as well.
This latest blend of utter tone deafness with a joke, an ensuing non-apology (complete with attempt to again somehow turn it around to be @Cupcake's fault that he got called on his bullshit), and the whole "not deal with you" as if it were, in fact, @Cupcake being unreasonable here, so reeks of Bane-like behaviour that I'm perfectly comfortable with the comparison.
The only thing really missing from being Bane Mk. II is claims of saving MUSHing with vaporware.
@Ghost I don't think you were trying to make a jab at her, by asking about what kind of tequila the woman was given. I do think you were making light of something that affects a lot of people on this forum, in a way that lightens it, when it doesn't directly affect you. So, yeah, that is offensive and hurtful, to me. Hence why I posted.
Absolutely. It was inappropriate and I'm sorry that I offended you. I don't believe that subject matter truly is funny, and it was beneath my character to make a joke around it.
We did?
Yes, we did. It's in the Random Bitching section. Something about how hyperbole is turning this place into the sort of shithole that we didn't want it to be. Maybe you didn't make the comment, but I certainly read one that came off as making this argument. Which is kind of reasonable, in my opinion.
I maintain that no one gets to say what someone is or is not offended by.
But Ghost really isn't the gibbering, grandiose waste of humanity that Bane was. And you, or anyone else, can call what he said as a non-apology. What he did do, however, is declare that he was going to back away and out, and he tried to do so ... or is trying, I don't know.
For the record, I didn't think he was making light of abuse.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
@Ganymede No (as in, I also don't think he was making jokes about abuse). But I mean, we could have a whole debate that goes into making light /of/ something, or making jokes in a way that does lighten the heaviness of a thing, even if that's not what you were making light of. He has apologized and is trying to move on, so I won't get into the debate. Today.
Yes, we did. It's in the Random Bitching section.
Ah. I just passed over something like 200 messages in Random Bitching because it was too random for me to even figure out what the fuck the topic was. It may have been buried in that mess.
Maybe you didn't make the comment, but I certainly read one that came off as making this argument. Which is kind of reasonable, in my opinion.
Is it really hyperbole, though? Honestly, yes it is. A bit. But only a bit. @Ghost has been in my ignore queue three times in as many months, each time lasting a bit longer than previous. He's in for the fourth time now. There's not a lot more times left before he just stays there as I lose all motivation to even do the miniscule work of clicking on that little eye icon. This is, in short, not the first time that I've looked at @Ghost's posting and gone "Dude! What the flying fuck!?" It's just the first time I've commented on it.
But Ghost really isn't the gibbering, grandiose waste of humanity that Bane was. And you, or anyone else, can call what he said as a non-apology. What he did do, however, is declare that he was going to back away and out, and he tried to do so ... or is trying, I don't know.
He declared, yes. How many times has he made similar declarations in the past? (Hint: I linked to his posting history.)
For the record, I didn't think he was making light of abuse.
Nor do I. Hence my referring to it as "tone deaf" instead of "being a fucking worthless piece of filth that would ASPIRE to be as lofty as dogshit".
I'll just be over here in my corner eating pizza for dinner because bus home was a miserable mess.
Missed first bus (because rain gave me a hitch in my step leaving work).
Got all turned around at my swap to second bus, so I missed it.
Then my app crashed and I wasn't able to reload it to double-check what my stop was and when I finally worked up the nerve to ask the driver... I'd missed it, adding an extra half mile onto the mile I already had to walk from the stop to get home.
Really hope getting to work tomorrow is, uhm. Smoother. ![😕](http://musoapbox.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f615.png?v=4vfms5ns7sl ":\")
The work itself is fine. If I had a vehicle or I could afford Uber to/from every day, I'd be OK. It's definitely the bus part that's the bulk of my anxiety.
Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.
Hence my referring to it as "tone deaf" instead of "being a fucking worthless piece of filth that would ASPIRE to be as lofty as dogshit".
If you want to put him on your Ignore list, that's fine. You've your reasons. But I hope you can agree with me that calling him Bane is unwarranted. Man, that's like calling someone VASpider: you reserve those curses for the people to whom they refer.
And sure, @Meg, we could have that debate some other place, some other time. But I guess my point was, and still is, that he mea-culpa'd out of the box.
Ghost isn't stupid, and he certainly did not come off as defensive until someone accused him of specifically targeting Cupcake. Frankly, if someone accused me of deliberately picking on someone when I honestly didn't mean to, even I would get a bit defensive. I'll own up to being my own kind of special.
Sorry to hear about your travails and bad news, and I wish I could help out.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
This fucking boot is clunky and my foot is sore and it is sapping all my energy and I hate it, there. Toddler rant off.
@Auspice Too far for a bicycle?
If you want to put him on your Ignore list, that's fine. You've your reasons. But I hope you can agree with me that calling him Bane is unwarranted. Man, that's like calling someone VASpider: you reserve those curses for the people to whom they refer.
OK, calling him Bane was out of order. BigBad?
And sure, @Meg, we could have that debate some other place, some other time. But I guess my point was, and still is, that he mea-culpa'd out of the box.
No. He did the half-assed-mea-culpa-but-really-te-culpa out of the box. And not for the first time.
Ghost isn't stupid…
Nor was, behaviour to the contrary, Bane. Unless you go by Gump formula, in which case both are pretty fucking stupid.
…and he certainly did not come off as defensive until someone accused him of specifically targeting Cupcake.
He started getting defensive the moment @Cupcake called him on his tin-earred response. Note: it wasn't until @Cupcake called him on it that he turned on his "I'm a complete asshole" mode. There's a pattern here. A pattern that now several people have commented on. I wasn't even the first (nor the last).
Frankly, if someone accused me of deliberately picking on someone when I honestly didn't mean to, even I would get a bit defensive. I'll own up to being my own kind of special.
Except … I linked to 2000 posts of history. There really is a trend of him going after @Cupcake for no visibly apparent reason. I mean I get it, they have history together. I'd be gunning after a few people from my history (Custodius, say) and it would make me look utterly fucking insane when I did. If there isn't a rule about me jumping in with the Marrach story every time Custodius is mentioned in the drinking game there should be. (There isn't. I should know. I wrote the latest round of them.) But in this case it really is time for someone to bitch-slap @Ghost and let him see what he's coming across as.
@Auspice
Sorry to hear about your travails and bad news, and I wish I could help out.
Yeah, that bus thing sucks. (Buses suck in general, but it's oh-so-much-worse when you're unfamiliar with a new system.)
@WTFE Well now you have to re-tell the Marrach story.
He/Him
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
Some day I'm going to end up in jail or banned from my favored grocery store due to a confrontation that starts with telling someone that they skipped someone in line at the grocery and wouldn't get to the back of the line. Not that I can throw a punch but I can sure as hell stand in front of a cart and refuse to move.
“If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
Thanks for being that guy.
@Ganymede No (as in, I also don't think he was making jokes about abuse). But I mean, we could have a whole debate that goes into making light /of/ something, or making jokes in a way that does lighten the heaviness of a thing, even if that's not what you were making light of. He has apologized and is trying to move on, so I won't get into the debate. Today.
