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I knoooow.
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@thenomain
Sabina's cat is a goblin taking an animal form, rather than a warlock cursed to be a cat. So probably not. He doesn't talk in this version. -
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Not yet. It was made clear that some familiars can in this canon.
Edit: IIRC he did when they first met.
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Salem talked when they first met and she talks to him in a sense that I think they talk to one another. He just isn't talking to anyone else.
There was a bit (after another witch died and Ambrose took 'custody' (after a fashion) of his familiar) where Zelda said familiars only talk to their witches. So I think familiars, by and far, work differently in the show than they do the comics/90s show.
But Ambrose is wonderfully poly. I Ambrose so much.
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Yeah, but it's not the comics' 'bi, snarky Salem the cat talking ALL THE TIME' which is what Theno is referencing. But yeah, familiars seem to be able to talk when they need to, like Stolas.
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Yeah, but it's not the comics' 'bi, snarky Salem the cat talking ALL THE TIME' which is what Theno is referencing. But yeah, familiars seem to be able to talk when they need to, like Stolas.
Well, I don't think Stolas is a familiar.
Because she's not a witch.ETA: Remember, in the comic, she turned one of the men from the bar into her 'familiar.'
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Wait, Sabrina was a comic?
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@thenomain My local comic shop owner is really bitter about this, because they never finished the alternate universe/reimagining comic that this series is based off (and it started out really good).
He refuses to watch the show because he's so sick of archie properties being made basically to kickstart a show pilot instead of finishing their run. He's a big archie fan, and they keep breaking his heart.
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Sabrina's been a comic since the 1950s. Chilling Adventures is a more recent imprint for them, just like Afterlife with Archie.
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@paris He should get used to it. Regular superhero comics are basically becoming promotional material for the movies, or limited runs and reboots trying to create interest in new films.
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It was announced today that Sabrina will have a Christmas special released on December 14th.
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@arkandel I know, I work in the industry.
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@paris He should get used to it. Regular superhero comics are basically becoming promotional material for the movies, or limited runs and reboots trying to create interest in new films.
I think this is awesome, because we have more mainstream outlets for these stories. I imagine it will also create space in the comics industry for more comics. I don't know if the comics are getting more sales because of it, but I hope they are.
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@thenomain Um, not really exactly, though there have been some indie publishers who actually were more of a 'potential tv content farm' than seriously trying to produce anything long-term. OTOH, long-term series really struggle in this market. OTOH, imo Archie Comics should know better. (And when series get started but don't get completed, it makes fans more wary and drives sales down.)
Comics is really not a lucrative market unless you've got a lot of properties out there generating royalties, you're working on several at once, you're certain names at certain publishers, etc.
There is also the reality that your story being optioned will probably never make it to TV; Bot and I have one such book. Friends of mine have had their stuff optioned repeatedly and for decades and for whatever reason they never get made (but are often mined for 'inspiration').
IMO don't write a comic for tv, it's too circuitous. Just appreciate the drabbles of money you get every few years as the property shifts hands IF it gets optioned.
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@thenomain said in Good TV:
I think this is awesome, because we have more mainstream outlets for these stories. I imagine it will also create space in the comics industry for more comics. I don't know if the comics are getting more sales because of it, but I hope they are.
I just don't want one to be at the expense of the other. Comics should have fully contained arcs, storylines which continue to their intended end barring purely financial decisions, characters that aren't just trying to get you to think of an actor or actress who can play the role of <X>, etc.
For example when Marvel basically cancelled the Fantastic Four title largely because they didn't have the movie rights to the team, that's the kind of thing I sigh about.
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Legends of Tomorrow continues to be the campiest happy on television at the moment in this house.
My husband could not make it through season 1. I wasn't terribly interested, either. It got a bit better in season 2, as they started to get far less serious. They finally hit their stride on ridiculousness for season 3 -- and all it took was one episode to get him to watch from there. Season 3 is more or less a love letter to our childhood, and all the campy goofy madness we remember living through in the 80s in many ways. (In some ways, it's even funnier to him than it is to me, because he knows what else the cast has been in as a generic movie geek, and there are several wink-wink-nudge-nudges at the 4th wall in that regard.)
I did not think they could out-goofy themselves. They have, and it is a joy to watch.
I don't do comedy. There are only a handful of comedy movies or series, even, that I like, and it's always a hard sell to get me to watch one. Regardless of how people may rave, getting me to watch a sitcom is like telling me I'm really going to enjoy it as you pull all my teeth with rusty pliers -- and only the snarky ones tend to make the 'I will get through more than the pilot'. (Archer, Disenchanted, The Good Place, I'm looking at you three... the only three I'll watch.)
But I love this. I love this as comedy. Good on them for embracing it fully. The 'snarky band of screwups and misfits' dynamic will always have a warm fuzzy place in the cockles of my otherwise coal black heart, but they really didn't sell it early on, and they do now. I can't necessarily empathize with The Flash or Supergirl very often (my 'inner good person' is a lot more like The Atom, down to the love of showtunes), but grumpy reluctant screwups with good intentions (and often geek streaks a mile wide)? Yeah. I feel that one. I was not entirely optimistic that they'd be able to hold on to what worked from Season 3, but they have, and the result really is the very best kind of fun.
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BEEBO LOVES YOU!
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@bobotron ...when Beebo showed up in Arrow, I about died. Instant spit-take. (This is so not a spoiler, was just a funny little easter egg. But STILL.)