Jul 28, 2021, 1:22 AM
@greenflashlight Between this and the discussion about Masks, there might be enough motivation for someone to do a PBtA system code.
MUs That We Would Love To Make (But Won't)
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'GLOW', but is your character the actress playing Zoya, or Zoya?
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@zombiegenesis I'd shoot for a middle ground, where the setting is relatively grounded and modern, but wrestling and the things that happen in it are totally real. Maybe with some insane bits, like a royal family who will only accept a prince as a worthy heir to the throne if they've accomplished something in Pro Wrestling.
I have a copy of Wild World Wrestling, which apparently used to be a WWF/WWE RPG in a previous edition, but I don't have a mind for how to translate mechanics to an MU.
There's at least one other Pro Wrestling tabletop RPG out there, but its name escapes me, and it treats Wrestling as just a show, and incorporates elements of the performers behind the wrestlers, which I don't want nearly as much.
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@il-volpe I haven't seen that show, but in this metaphor, she's Zoya.
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@il-volpe At least, in the ideal game in my head, they are. If by some miracle someone actually makes a Pro Wrestling MU, they could always decide to do it differently. I'd give pretty much anything a try at this point, but I think the characters actually being their characters is the most fun way to go for non-match scenes.
I think my main case against wanting a hyper crazy 'in the future there is only wrestling to settle internation/interstellar conflicts' route is... I'd like a wrestling game to feel like a good wrestling show/story. I feel like crazy alternate takes are best suited for after the basics prove successful somewhere.
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Yeah, I like the idea that it's real. The feuds are real, the wrestling is real, everything is real. Even if there was a touch of the fantastic involved.
The hard part is the matches. The way I see it you could go 1 of 3 ways complex, basic, and simple.
Complex: Use a system that lets you do things round by round.
Basic: Break the matches up into Early, Middle, Late. Have some sort of stats involved and have each wrestler roll off at the beginning of a phase then RP appropriately. First wrestler to win 2 phases wins the match.
Simple: Don't RP the matches at all and use a wrestling simulator(TNM7, Firepro Wrestling, WWE 2KX, etc).
The more I think about it the more I dig simulating the matches because then you could have NPCs involved really easily.
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@zombiegenesis Using a video game is A) Impractical because even the people who can afford/want to get it will have to jump through hoops to play with each other, and B) Not ideal because it robs the match of personality or drama and becomes a random number generator in regards to move and outcomes.
There are tabletop RPG systems specifically for playing out wrestling matches, and, frankly, I think if people have a very specific idea of what they want to have happen/what they want the outcome to be, they should be free to freeform it as well; with the system in place for whatever combination of fairness and outcome resolution they could be good for.
I have random smatterings of ideas for a system, but they aren't really coagulated into a coherent whole, and hell if I'd know how to code them, much less create and test them.
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@carma Shit talking, physical assaults, cheating during matches, corrupt officials; combatants momentarily BECOMING officials with agendas, partnerships forming and then imploding into violence, evil stables that take power over the wrestling organization; all kinds of good stuff in a world where a pull-apart brawl or protracted beat down could reasonably erupt over the slightest act of disrespect or misunderstanding.
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I'd also encourage people to have lots of alt characters, not just for variety, but so they can fill the roster with good guys and bad guys and varied gimmicks; and always have people on hand even just for unimportant matches if their 'main' character is wrapped up in a big feud or something. I think I'd let everyone have one (but only one) big scary 'monster' character if they want one; and I'd encourage people to also have/emit/spoof characters that are managers/valets, referees or interviewers just so they can always have some kind of role; even if referees would otherwise just be a mechanic of the system.
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@squirreltalk 1) It was just an idea. 2) I never said it was the perfect solution. 3) I never said anything about people playing each other or having to buy a video game. I said the matches would be simulated(by a booker/staff member). If you used Firepro or WWE 2KX they'd also be a watchable show that could be streamed on YouTube or Twitch.
I think there are other advantages but ,clearly, we're not on the same page with the idea.
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@zombiegenesis No need to be defensive, I wasn't attacking you. You presented an idea, and I pointed out what I perceived to be flaws in the idea; that's all.
That said, streaming the matches would take a lot of time; to say nothing of the time spent on recreating their characters and moves in the create-a-character. And 2K games can't have intergender matches, which would be prohibitive. And, again, I don't care for the randomized outcomes that would result. At that point you're not really playing a competitor so much as talking trash between livestreams.
Though there IS a market for that! https://www.twitch.tv/edwardbosco Runs 2K wrestling shows usually once or twice a week using chat's created characters, and they roleplay a bit in the chat. It seems like good fun.
But I wouldn't attach a MUSH to it.
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Hmmmmm.......what have we here?
For folks looking for a system for TLA/LoK...
https://magpiegames.com/avatarrpg/
And the Kickstarter begins August 3rd.
But, I mean, it's not like there's any real interest in an Avatar MU, right?
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@runescryer said in MUs That We Would Love To Make (But Won't):
But, I mean, it's not like there's any real interest in an Avatar MU, right?
no i dont want that at all
i bet you dont either
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@greenflashlight Between this and the discussion about Masks, there might be enough motivation for someone to do a PBtA system code.
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Something I've been pondering for a while now...
GI Joe, but not quite how you're probably thinking.
If you add in the Cobra-La elements of the lore, as goofy as it may have been, you can get something entirely different. Suddenly, the Joes aren't fighting against just a high-tech terrorist organization anymore. COBRA is being backed not just with high-tech weapons, but being controlled by an ancient, hidden civilization with disturbing biotechnology. It's just a small step further to turn COBRA into an army completely unaware that it's preparing the way for evil, eldritch beings.
So, GI Joe by way of Delta Green/Cthulhu Mythos.
Jut thought I'd toss this out to the general MSB population for them to use as an theme.
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@runescryer I'd play that! I might even help staff it if it got off the ground.
And Cobra-La might have had it's goofier elements but it also gave us Golobulus and Nemesis who I think are just a fantastic characters.
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@runescryer said in MUs That We Would Love To Make (But Won't):
If you add in the Cobra-La elements of the lore, as goofy as it may have been, you can get something entirely different. Suddenly, the Joes aren't fighting against just a high-tech terrorist organization anymore. COBRA is being backed not just with high-tech weapons, but being controlled by an ancient, hidden civilization with disturbing biotechnology. It's just a small step further to turn COBRA into an army completely unaware that it's preparing the way for evil, eldritch beings.
Wait, what? Did the reptiloid conspiracy theory come from GI Joe? Is that the origin?
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@greenflashlight said in MUs That We Would Love To Make (But Won't):
Wait, what? Did the reptiloid conspiracy theory come from GI Joe? Is that the origin?
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GI Joe meets Esoterrorists.
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@runescryer said in MUs That We Would Love To Make (But Won't):
Hmmmmm.......what have we here?
For folks looking for a system for TLA/LoK...
https://magpiegames.com/avatarrpg/
And the Kickstarter begins August 3rd.
But, I mean, it's not like there's any real interest in an Avatar MU, right?
You can do Avatar pretty easy with FS3 the same way @GirlCalledBlu and @Seraphim73 made elemental powers and integrated them into their The Savage Skies set-up. It would even turn into having actual fights with dice. That would be nice.