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[Lithium]

@lordbelh

Crap I forgot about that one, I've only seen season 1, will have to get caught up. I love me some pirates, but, it's a bit tricky to do on a mush setting.... at least without it turning into a TS mu*. The core of pirates is pillaging and raping, in whatever order.

[Misadventure]

Ooooh no. The core of pirates is the same as the core for sailors in the age of sail. Not much happening. Maintaining your vessel. Deciding if you can trust those around you and they you. Disease, storms, boredom.

The retiring with 100,000 times the lifetime earnings of a sailor.

[Arkandel]

@Misadventure said:

The retiring with 100,000 times the lifetime earnings of a sailor.

Or at the wrong end of a rope.

[Misadventure]

@Arkandel said:

Or at the wrong end of a rope.

Also better than being a sailor.

[ThugHeaven]

Ugh frickin Amazon has some weird Starz package now, so I'll probably have to wait until the season's over to buy it.

I think a pirate mu* could work if it was in a pirate haven setting like Black Sails. Throw some politics in there for people that like that sort of thing.

[Lithium]

It probably could, set it in Port Royal or Tortuga or even a place like New Orleans (Which was very pirate friendly once upon a time). You could even make up a fictional city on an island also...

Could have a lot of stuff going on in the city, and adventures could be out trying to plunder and whatnot.

[Misadventure]

It would be important that death have some teeth, at least in my opinion. Otherwise risk becomes a farce, and the whole lifestyle is based on risk. Pirates take huge risks to be pirates, and many of their targets surrender because the risk of slaughter is worse than losing the cargo of someone you barely know who treats you ill. On average a 50 man pirate ship would take ships with crews of 7-14. The black flag was an offer of safety if the ship didn't fight.

[Ganymede]

@Misadventure said:

It would be important that death have some teeth, at least in my opinion. Otherwise risk becomes a farce, and the whole lifestyle is based on risk.

As a divergence, I have always believed that great shows have death front and center.

I grew up watching Transformers. The narrative changed when beloved Transformers began to die off; not just Optimus Prime, but also Brawl, Ironhide, Prowl, Ratchet, Windcharger, and Wheeljack (among the Autobots).

What made the short-lived Exo-Squad so good was that death was an overpowering theme in the series. It motivated J.T. Marsh and Nala Burns, which pushed the storyline. When they killed off Alec Deleon, I was all, like, WTF? Because he died in a rather inglorious way.

Death is a poignant thing. I cannot abide by storylines where no one of significance perishes over several "episodes," if they are calculated to be thrillers.

[tragedyjones]

@Ganymede said:

@Misadventure said:

It would be important that death have some teeth, at least in my opinion. Otherwise risk becomes a farce, and the whole lifestyle is based on risk.

As a divergence, I have always believed that great shows have death front and center.

I grew up watching Transformers. The narrative changed when beloved Transformers began to die off; not just Optimus Prime, but also Brawl, Ironhide, Prowl, Ratchet, Windcharger, and Wheeljack (among the Autobots).

What made the short-lived Exo-Squad so good was that death was an overpowering theme in the series. It motivated J.T. Marsh and Nala Burns, which pushed the storyline. When they killed off Alec Deleon, I was all, like, WTF? Because he died in a rather inglorious way.

Death is a poignant thing. I cannot abide by storylines where no one of significance perishes over several "episodes," if they are calculated to be thrillers.

Such heroic nonsense.

[Roz]

@tragedyjones said:

@Ganymede said:

@Misadventure said:

It would be important that death have some teeth, at least in my opinion. Otherwise risk becomes a farce, and the whole lifestyle is based on risk.

As a divergence, I have always believed that great shows have death front and center.

I grew up watching Transformers. The narrative changed when beloved Transformers began to die off; not just Optimus Prime, but also Brawl, Ironhide, Prowl, Ratchet, Windcharger, and Wheeljack (among the Autobots).

What made the short-lived Exo-Squad so good was that death was an overpowering theme in the series. It motivated J.T. Marsh and Nala Burns, which pushed the storyline. When they killed off Alec Deleon, I was all, like, WTF? Because he died in a rather inglorious way.

Death is a poignant thing. I cannot abide by storylines where no one of significance perishes over several "episodes," if they are calculated to be thrillers.

Such heroic nonsense.

I thought you were made of sterner stuff.

[Jaded]

@Roz

And then hotrod ruins it...

[Bobotron]

Supergirl continues to get better and better...

[Bobotron]

@Jaded
Ehh. Hot Rod's at least better than Mr. 'I Can't Deal With That Now' and 'It's The Most Beautiful Thing I've Ever Seen... Now Give Me The Bomb' Ultra Magnus.

[Jaded]

@Bobotron said:

@Jaded
Ehh. Hot Rod's at least better than Mr. 'I Can't Deal With That Now' and 'It's The Most Beautiful Thing I've Ever Seen... Now Give Me The Bomb' Ultra Magnus.

Yeah that's pretty true. He made a pretty bad leader.

[Arkandel]

At episode 6, season 1 of 100. Wtf is it called 100? They're dying like goddamn flies, more like 87 or so by now!

[Jaded]

@Arkandel

So what would you rename the show to? Well that's an interesting question for anyone. If you were to rename your favorite show or shows, what would you rename them to?

[Arkandel]

@Jaded The Less Than Or Equal To 100 has a certain ring to it, doesn't it?

No Hollywood, stop banging on my door, I won't market your shit. Go away.

[Coin]

@Arkandel said:

At episode 6, season 1 of 100. Wtf is it called 100? They're dying like goddamn flies, more like 87 or so by now!

A lot of shows rapidly outgrow their titles, unless they are very ambiguous.

The 100 obviously refers to the one hundred kids who got sent down.

I actually hate this phenomenon. The Vampire Diaries didn't have anything anywhere near diaries for like five seasons, with any actual diaries brought back only lasting an episode; The Originals doesn't even have the majority of the original vampires in the cast; Buffy: The Vampire Slayer slayed way way way more than vampires (and her whole schtick was beyond just vampires, so why they called her that is beyond me); Smallville lasted ten years even though the majority of the last six occurred in Metropolis; Glee stopped being about the glee club for its last year, if I read correctly...

The 100 is just the most egregious--I mean, they already had all of this stuff penned before it started production. It would have been easy to find another name that was more accurate.

I just try to ignore it.

[Arkandel]

@Coin Banshee. It's relevant from the first few minutes of the first episode until, I assume, its final season. For the same reason, Gotham works well. Or something like Suits where the show is all about those people wearing them (or is it the suits wearing the people)?

But yeah.

[Coin]

@Arkandel said:

@Coin Banshee. It's relevant from the first few minutes of the first episode until, I assume, its final season. For the same reason, Gotham works well. Or something like Suits where the show is all about those people wearing them (or is it the suits wearing the people)?

But yeah.

Well, I said "a lot", not "all". Dollhouse was always about the titular business, Justified was a conceptual name and theme of a show, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis*, any of the Star Treks, Hercules, Xena, Angel, Veronica Mars, even Gossip Girl stuck with its general theme and has Gossip Girl doing the intro every episode.