The 100: The Mush
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@lordbelh said in The 100: The Mush:
@surreality Except in that different thread I never told you not to make your game, or suggest you shouldn't make your game (I distinctly remember @ghost spelling out s/he felt these two shouldn't make games at all, but I'm not going to rifle through posts for a quote, so I'll happily let it go).
I said that.
Taken in context, I do hold my belief that these two should not open games, or at least not to the public. From what I wrote there was no suggestion nor really any basis for extrapolating that I believe that because of these two no one should open any games ever, or that no more games was the best solution to my personal views not being met.
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@Ghost I think @lordbelh's point was more along the lines of... if every time someone said 'this person should not make anymore games!', that person stopped making games? There would quickly be no more games. Everyone has their feeling on who is or isn't a good game runner, but that shouldn't stop people from making games. I applaud @GirlCalledBlu and @Seraphim73 for their invite-only sandbox game. Its a good way for them to get the small group RP that I think they're looking for. They've even acknowledged there's parts where they failed and at the least, @GirlCalledBlu is making an effort to understand how her perceptions of what's okay differs from how others view it. That's good on them. Maybe someday they'll open up a public game where they can try running things in a new way that departs from the style that was turning people off from The 100/Fifth World/whatever else. I rather hope they do, since it would show that we as a community can learn from our mistakes and move past them.
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I applaud them for running the 100. Even if they were telling stories for themselves, that's a lot of dang work and misuse doesn't remove use. People had fun there, clearly - it was a popular game.
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@lordbelh said in The 100: The Mush:
@Sunny said in The 100: The Mush:
Hold up. Let me say something here very clearly, because I have put forth firmly worded negative opinions. You are not a bad staffer. You are an incredible storyteller, you have good intentions, you treat people with respect, and you're reasonable. I could probably think of a dozen other things that you excel at, where staffing is concerned.
I'd agree with that.
It'd be a shame if @GirlCalledBlu stopped making games. Because, unlike what @ghost seems believe, people not making games is way worse than a game not being up to everybody's standards of perfection.
The idea that everybody'd been better off without @GirlCalledBlu and @Seraphim73 making the 100 is patently false. Because people had fun. Because whatever disappointments were had, including that it shut down, is vastly outweighed by all the tons of fun people had on the game.
Things could've been done better. But lets keep that in perspective.
Agreed 100%. I disagreed with Orion and Andy on some things, but wouldn't even have to think hard about joining another game they ran if they decided to run one. I had more fun on the 100 then I've had on most mushes in my entire mushing career. 8/10 would play again. Even if it isn't perfect or didn't last as long as I'd like.
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@bored said in The 100: The Mush:
I honestly don't remember the Fifth World stuff too well in terms of which characters were what, only that I had a hard time getting a piece of the plot despite having a character who for all intents and purposes made a lot of sense to be highly involved (one of the oldest PCs, head of minor house responsible for a lot of shipbuilding, denied having any kind of position in the fleet administration and told to 'work toward it' in a vague way despite the guy being in his late 40s or 50s, IE presumably mid career at least). My perception was less of specific staffer malfeasance (although I did remember a lot of eye-rolly very public relationship spectacle stuff) as it being a lot of RP among friends and outsiders just being kind of clueless on what to do at all.
This matches pretty well with my experiences on The Fifth World, I played Alexis, she was a cousin to the royal family and experienced military leader in her 50's but had to be a 'Knight Lieutenant', in command of a few dozen people at most, because apparently player characters were not allowed to have real influence or power. The thing is, that was despite the fact there were plenty of player characters who were the heads of noble houses or ducal heirs with literally thousands of troops and country sized domains under their control.
Obviously people who had ten thousand minions, many of whom were almost as capable as a really focused player character, still had the same number of points for their +sheet and had much more plot involvement as well in general. It just did not seem to make much sense, if one person can be a Count why cannot another person be a General, or the head of Fleet Procurement, or whatever? Not to mention if all senior nobility are PCs/NPCs played as PCs, especially in a feudal system, why should they be just as capable as the person playing a Space Knight with nothing particular going for them apart from their raw ability and PC Aura?
Now in my case I was hardly shut out of plot, Alexis was actually in command of all of the player characters and their part of the fight during the first big battle with the cyborg invader people. She was the royal heir's aunt who remembered them being toddles and they came to her for advise sometimes, etc. Everything still felt very much on rails though and I eventually stopped playing despite otherwise having fun.
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I liked Alexis. She wasn't 'Captain takes absurdly young PB, descs self as young looking, ages up to max stats'.
I also played Talayla and uh. I am bad at everything.
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Post 667
Because Neighbor of the Beast
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I know the 100 MUSH is 100% over, but I just saw the Season 4 trailer and needed a place to share my excitement with other nerds who would understand.
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I saw it too, I UNDERSTAND.
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@Cupcake
I am not sold. I am probably the only one. But man that opening scene was impactful. Not sure how they'll actually SURVIVE this season's insanity, but... -
We are getting more Zach McGowan, therefore I do not fucking care if all the cast does is take turns reading the phone book after the world goes nuclear, and I am The 100% serious on this point.
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@surreality said in The 100: The Mush:
We are getting more Zach McGowan, therefore I do not fucking care if all the cast does is take turns reading the phone book after the world goes nuclear, and I am The 100% serious on this point.
At first I read that as Zach Gowen and became really confused.
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@surreality said in The 100: The Mush:
We are getting more Zach McGowan, therefore I do not fucking care if all the cast does is take turns reading the phone book after the world goes nuclear, and I am The 100% serious on this point.
Zach McGowan is important. I know they made him a regular, but I'm definitely wondering how he's going to fit into all of it.
O's going hardcore, yo.
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@Cupcake said in The 100: The Mush:
O's going hardcore, yo.
So far my impressions of the trailer are:
- Olivia gets scarier
- Murphy gets Murphy'd (as usual)
- Bellarke might actually happen
- There's a new Commander in town
- Niylah (Clarke's berry-red-phase rebound) becomes semi-relevant as a strong independant Grounder woman who don't need no Wanheda
- Raven is running away from things in her leg-brace and spends some time on a stretcher
I am OK with all of these things, except maybe the last one. Can't poor R catch a break?
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Season 4 started last night.
This is just me, pouring a 40 for my homies. As Kevin Smith once said about Mallrats, before it went to shit, it was Camelot.
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@Cupcake Does that mean it was awful?
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I am on the fence, wait and see mode.
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@TNP: Naw, it was okay. I am, like @surreality, in wait and see mode. But Zack McGowan is now a regular castmember, so that seems like it is all to the good. It's just hard not to watch the show and be filled with a certain level of wistfulness for what could have been, gamewise.
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Maybe you guys should make a thread in the TV & Movies section?
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@Cupcake said in The 100: The Mush:
@TNP: Naw, it was okay. I am, like @surreality, in wait and see mode. But Zack McGowan is now a regular castmember, so that seems like it is all to the good. It's just hard not to watch the show and be filled with a certain level of wistfulness for what could have been, gamewise.
They cut his hair, though! Which is not OK. It's just not! Ahem. <tucks her fangirling back into her pocket and gets a case of the shifty-eyes>
Clearly, most of those bullets just shot his hair off. I'mma go with that theory for the time being.