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We're legitimately at a point where we have so many tools that can just spit out a clean log by pressing one button. MUSHClient is capable of this, but it takes a lot of fiddling around that's far outside the bounds of most newbies. So yeah, while logging literally everything on your screen is intuitive, it's intuitive in the same way that turning up the heat on a frying pan as high as possible and then trying to cook vegetables is intuitive.
The vegetables certainly get cooked, but...
@Lithium said in UX: It's time for The Talk:
I get the feeling that some people seem to want a point and click choose your own adventure.
That seems like some massive hyperbole.
I don't really understand the hostility towards wanting to simplify something. To me it suggests at least a baseline level of defensive elitism that embraces the barrier to entry for new people into the hobby.
I'll be the first to say that "paying your dues" and learning how to deal with stuff that shouldn't be dealt with in the first place is bullshit. I've said repeatedly that not every game needs to be made with people new to the hobby in mind, because that's not really the intent of every single game.
To me it's a total copout when people are constantly going "No one cares about this hobby because of MMOs" (BS), and "No one cares about text based RPing anymore" (Monstrously BS and not even in the same universe as reality), but then get up in arms and defensive when someone says "Hey, maybe we should discuss some of the barriers to entry and complications that people might not think of as complications due to being used to them".
The constant defensiveness, emotional negativity, elitism, and generally treating MU code like a sacred cow, is unconstructive and I honestly am tired of seeing it in this thread.
I'm gonna be blunt, if people don't have anything constructive to say and nothing of actual value to contribute, then don't post.
If people wanna go "Fuck all these lazy millennial newbies" and "They just have to learn the incredibly unnecessary ropes because that's what I did, and that's just how things are, so stop worrying about it", then just go to the Hog Pit where they're all about pessimism and infinite stagnation.
Plenty of people have had constructive things to say in this thread, but I'm sick of all the condescending derailing from actual discussion.
Damned near everyone in this thread is older than me, it's unacceptable.
edit: Also, my MUSHClient might be terrible because I've copied over the same install to multiple hard drives and PCs for like a decade.