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Coin

@HelloProject said in Date Thenomain:

@Meg

I haven't seen most Mel Brooks movies, though I plan to.

I don't care about Jaws because it's a movie about a shark and it doesn't even have lasers or is a ghost.

I've never seen any Indiana Jones movie.

I don't care about Avatar (the blue people), because the concept sounds boring, so I never watched it.

I hate Inception.

I've seen snippets of Avatar and tried to start watching it. It's not for me.
I watched Inception. I did not like it. Yes, good use of SFX. Meh story.

I do think you should give at least Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (the first) a chance. It's a classic for me. If it's not your bag, it's not, but it's just one of my childhood gems.

Avatar (blue people) is basically just Cameron ripping off Ursula K. LeGuin's "The Word for World is Forest" by way of Pocahontas and Dances with Wolves.

Per Wikipedia:

Resemblance to Avatar:

Several reviewers have noted that the narrative of the 2009 film Avatar has many similarities to that of The Word for World is Forest. Specific similarities include the notion that the Earth's resources have been used up, the extraction of resources in an exploitative manner from another planet, a native population on that planet which lives in close harmony with their world, and a rebellion by those natives against the exploitative human colonizers. A key difference lies in the roles of the "benevolent" humans in both works: Raj Lyubov in The Word for World is Forest, Jake Sully and the human scientists in Avatar. While Lyubov made an impression as a "sensible" human and did help mediate peace between the Athshean people and humanity, he is not the savior of their race, and he does not survive to claim any "prize" from it.º Additionally, in The Word for World is Forest militarism is regarded by the Athsheans – especially Selver – as an unfortunate but necessary addition to Athshean culture, and one that may destroy their way of life. In contrast, militarism is seen less critically in Avatar.ºº

º Pocahontas connection.
ºº Dances with Wolves connection.

Avatar is a hot mess. It's an extremely gorgeous hot mess, but it's still a hot mess.

Catsmeow

Princess Bride is just from my childhood, though I do try to get everyone to watch it.
I've seen all the Indiana Jones movies (we won't talk about the crystal skull one)
I saw Avatar on a date. I wasn't overly impressed. I mean it was pretty, but that's about it. Oh and it had 'kitties' but yeah.
Gonna be honest, I can't remember my thoughts on Inception -- which probably speaks for itself.

Coin

@Catsmeow said in Date Thenomain:

Princess Bride is just from my childhood, though I do try to get everyone to watch it.
I've seen all the Indiana Jones movies (we won't talk about the crystal skull one)
I saw Avatar on a date. I wasn't overly impressed. I mean it was pretty, but that's about it. Oh and it had 'kitties' but yeah.
Gonna be honest, I can't remember my thoughts on Inception -- which probably speaks for itself.

Inception overestimates how interesting its premise is by assuming everyone is going to view it and react to it the way someone who is not versed in science fiction or fantasy of speculative fiction will.

While some people who are versed still really liked it, a very large portion of geek culture viewed it as a SFX-heavy movie about mind-control through dream manipulation, which is hardly a novel concept in science fiction.

That's where the dissonance between "WOW HOW AWESOME" and "it was aiight" and "meh" comes from. The more informed you are about these specific tropes in the genre, the less likely you are to be wowed by it, because the movie isn't particularly original about how it does it, it just has better access to visual effects.

Ganymede

@Coin said in Date Thenomain:

Inception overestimates how interesting its premise is by assuming everyone is going to view it and react to it the way someone who is not versed in science fiction or fantasy of speculative fiction will.

Just about everything from Christopher Nolan seems to overestimate the interest in its premise.

Except for Batman. Always be Batman.

Coin

@Ganymede said in Date Thenomain:

@Coin said in Date Thenomain:

Inception overestimates how interesting its premise is by assuming everyone is going to view it and react to it the way someone who is not versed in science fiction or fantasy of speculative fiction will.

Just about everything from Christopher Nolan seems to overestimate the interest in its premise.

Except for Batman. Always be Batman.

And even then, The Dark Knight Rises was hardly as original or surprising as it obviously thought it was.

Auspice

@Coin said in Date Thenomain:

@Catsmeow said in Date Thenomain:

Princess Bride is just from my childhood, though I do try to get everyone to watch it.
I've seen all the Indiana Jones movies (we won't talk about the crystal skull one)
I saw Avatar on a date. I wasn't overly impressed. I mean it was pretty, but that's about it. Oh and it had 'kitties' but yeah.
Gonna be honest, I can't remember my thoughts on Inception -- which probably speaks for itself.

Inception overestimates how interesting its premise is by assuming everyone is going to view it and react to it the way someone who is not versed in science fiction or fantasy of speculative fiction will.

While some people who are versed still really liked it, a very large portion of geek culture viewed it as a SFX-heavy movie about mind-control through dream manipulation, which is hardly a novel concept in science fiction.

That's where the dissonance between "WOW HOW AWESOME" and "it was aiight" and "meh" comes from. The more informed you are about these specific tropes in the genre, the less likely you are to be wowed by it, because the movie isn't particularly original about how it does it, it just has better access to visual effects.

Right. Inception just sort of felt like this movie made for people who have never engaged in speculative fiction in their lives to sit around and go 'I am so amazingly intelligent because I 'got' it.'

ThatGuyThere

@Coin
That is probably the best review of Inception I have seen.
As a avid SF reader in my youth, my thoughts on Inception were that is was a god enjoyable movie. I enjoyed the story and the effects, I don't think it was mind blowing or original, but originality in any genre of movie is a pretty rare thing. I have seen it a couple of times and it holds up as an enjoyable re-watch especially if you are in the mood for SF but are watching a movie with non-SF people because it is not what most non-fans envision as SF it can get past a lot of the standard objections.

skew

I think I'm late to the shitpost but I just want to say, having worked on many projects side-by-side with @Thenomain, and having spent hours and hours talking, I feel like we've been intimate together.

5/7 would recommend.

Catsmeow

So @skew s in the running now too?

Hella

Well then I'm out. You can't compete with that much @skew ness.

Thenomain

@VulgarKitten said in Date Thenomain:

Well then I'm out. You can't compete with that much @skew ness.

Nnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooo!

Hella

@Thenomain
There's too much bromance there for me to get in between.

Thenomain

@VulgarKitten said in Date Thenomain:

@Thenomain
There's too much bromance there for me to get in between.

My life is over. I regret everything.

Coin

@Thenomain said in Date Thenomain:

@VulgarKitten said in Date Thenomain:

@Thenomain
There's too much bromance there for me to get in between.

My life is over. I regret everything.

So does your mom.

skew

@Thenomain said in Date Thenomain:

@VulgarKitten said in Date Thenomain:

@Thenomain
There's too much bromance there for me to get in between.

My life is over. I regret everything.

️️

Thenomain

@Coin said in Date Thenomain:

@Thenomain said in Date Thenomain:

@VulgarKitten said in Date Thenomain:

@Thenomain
There's too much bromance there for me to get in between.

My life is over. I regret everything.

So does your mom.

You are off the list. I can't remember who is actually choosing, but please note that @coin is so off the list.

Coin

@Thenomain said in Date Thenomain:

@Coin said in Date Thenomain:

@Thenomain said in Date Thenomain:

@VulgarKitten said in Date Thenomain:

@Thenomain
There's too much bromance there for me to get in between.

My life is over. I regret everything.

So does your mom.

You are off the list. I can't remember who is actually choosing, but please note that @coin is so off the list.

Ganymede

@Thenomain

Thanks for that information, Dogberry.

Catsmeow

I think I'm choosing, though we could make a forum poll.

skew

@Catsmeow but we haven't heard from @coin's mom yet.