Dealing with Staff
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It literally does not matter how the staff member is behaving, for answering his question. Nobody's jumping on him, it just so happens that the answer to the question he asked isn't the one he hoped for. Taking that as unreasonable criticism or people being aggressive is pretty ridiculous.
It isn't inherently mean to answer a 'how do I' with a 'you can't'.
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@Ashen-Shugar said in Dealing with Staff:
When you go off to 'teach a lesson' you wind up learning more then the person who you're trying to instruct.
I definitely agree with this. It comes back to my statement about acting like a mature adult.
Be aware of what you really want out of your interactions with the person. If it's for them to do their job as a staffer, then that's great. Actually being courteous, concise, and professional is almost always the best way to get that, and if it doesn't work it's likely that nothing will.
If what you really want is to get them in trouble, or to beat them, or honestly just about anything else than simply getting the +job/etc. done, then chances are very good that the problem is at least partly you. There's even a good chance the problem is mostly or entirely you. So the first step is to fix yourself, because you're ultimately the only person whose actions you'll ever have full control over.
@Catsmeow said:
I feel like people here know more of the story on the jump on the person-ness going on. However, I would like to remind people that sometimes staffers are DICKS.
This is true, I agree with you completely, but everything I said applies no matter who is at fault, and how big a dick the staffer is. The absolutely best way to deal with it still to: (1) make sure you're not being a dick yourself and deal with them in a calm, reasonable, polite manner that covers what needs to be done for your play to continue and nothing else, or (2) leave the game. There's possibly (3) try to have a calm conversation about it with them and work things out, but in general if someone needs this advice in the first place, there's a good chance they're not suited to doing that without it spiraling out of control.
The first option can include taking the evidence of the problems to someone who can actually take action on it, sometimes. It depends on the situation. If there's really nothing that can be done, like if they're the HeadWiz and not beholden to anyone, then you either just live with it or you leave.
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@Kanye-Qwest said in Dealing with Staff:
Everyone is a dick when they aren't getting their way.
Not remotely true in my experience.
And a bad generalization to make, if by making it, you're going to read dickery into every reply to a 'no', especially in a text-based environment in which we have a lot of information loss due to tone.
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@Sunny said in Dealing with Staff:
It literally does not matter how the staff member is behaving, for answering his question. Nobody's jumping on him, it just so happens that the answer to the question he asked isn't the one he hoped for. Taking that as unreasonable criticism or people being aggressive is pretty ridiculous.
It isn't inherently mean to answer a 'how do I' with a 'you can't'.
"How do I fly without technological assistance?"
"Briefly, and with a sudden stop at the end."
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
"How do I fly without technological assistance?"
"Briefly, and with a sudden stop at the end."
OMG why are you so MEAN to me?
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@Sunny said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
"How do I fly without technological assistance?"
"Briefly, and with a sudden stop at the end."
OMG why are you so MEAN to me?
Section 4, subsection 2, paragraph 15, line 3: 'You like it'.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
@Sunny said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
"How do I fly without technological assistance?"
"Briefly, and with a sudden stop at the end."
OMG why are you so MEAN to me?
Section 4, subsection 2, paragraph 15, line 3: 'You like it'.
line 4: "Even if you don't, It's @Coin "
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@TNP said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
@Sunny said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
"How do I fly without technological assistance?"
"Briefly, and with a sudden stop at the end."
OMG why are you so MEAN to me?
Section 4, subsection 2, paragraph 15, line 3: 'You like it'.
line 4: "Even if you don't, It's @Coin "
That's actually down in the fine print of the footnote.
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@Sunny said in Dealing with Staff:
It isn't inherently mean to answer a 'how do I' with a 'you can't'.
"How do I go about making a half-human, half-monkey hybrid?"
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede said in Dealing with Staff:
@Sunny said in Dealing with Staff:
It isn't inherently mean to answer a 'how do I' with a 'you can't'.
"How do I go about making a half-human, half-monkey hybrid?"
SCIENCE!
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Isn't it enough that I ruined a pony, making a gift for youuuuuuuuuuuu...WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!
I was reminded. Whatever.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Arkandel said in Dealing with Staff:
This sounds extremely unpleasant to me. In fact if I wanted to come up with a way to make MU*ing unfun 24/7 that'd be it - having to log every conversation, making a point of stating terse comments expressing my dissatisfaction, prolonging an interpersonal grudge.
Having had to do this a few times, but as a player and as a staff, I can attest that it is very unpleasant. I tended to leave the place after, and my entire situation was revolved around just finding proof and information to help the other players I knew were in the same uncomfortable position and provide truth.
Sometimes, part of the mature thing is gathering and providing proof to help others even if it can't help yourself.
But as stated by several others, and which can't be repeated often enough. Do it for the right reasons. Being the one to win wouldn't be one of those
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@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
Isn't it enough that I ruined a pony, making a gift for youuuuuuuuuuuu...WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!
As I keep telling you, despite being into you, I'm still way too smart for you.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
Isn't it enough that I ruined a pony, making a gift for youuuuuuuuuuuu...WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!
As I keep telling you, despite being into you, I'm still way too smart for you.
Then let me off this stupid mountain and call off your ... "children".
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
@Ganymede said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
Isn't it enough that I ruined a pony, making a gift for youuuuuuuuuuuu...WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!
As I keep telling you, despite being into you, I'm still way too smart for you.
Then let me off this stupid mountain and call off your ... "children".
They're hungry. Have you ever had to deal with a hungry child?
You're on your own.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
@Ganymede said in Dealing with Staff:
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
Isn't it enough that I ruined a pony, making a gift for youuuuuuuuuuuu...WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!
As I keep telling you, despite being into you, I'm still way too smart for you.
Then let me off this stupid mountain and call off your ... "children".
They're hungry. Have you ever had to deal with a hungry child?
You're on your own.
My Code Moneky @Thenomain will save me. Right? RIGHT? I HAVE FRITOS AND TAB AND MOUNTAIN DEW.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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“If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
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@Thenomain said in Dealing with Staff:
And Code Monkey like you.
A lot.
Everyone likes me, but no one is saving me from the fucking wolves. ;_____;
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
@Thenomain said in Dealing with Staff:
And Code Monkey like you.
A lot.
Everyone likes me, but no one is saving me from the fucking wolves. ;_____;
Fucking wolves? Incest is best.
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Logging isn't hard.
Atlantis can make it automatic, with a title of date and time.
So it's not much of a burden.
Hoping that logging will get you anything is a burden.
I have a waggish sense of humor.
