Mar 6, 2015, 2:44 AM
Also, man, fucking R-o with an umlaut-tgrafen?
I'm so sick of that bloodline. Bitch bitch bitch. D:<
Eldritch - A World of Darkness MUX
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Also, man, fucking R-o with an umlaut-tgrafen?
I'm so sick of that bloodline. Bitch bitch bitch. D:<
“Real magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
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@The-Tree-of-Woe I like them.
But we're not doing Bloodlines for at least the first six months of the game, for my sanity.
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Werewolf had Lodges in it, you have to add Bloodlines in, IMMEDIATELY.
“Real magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn -
... his headgear. SO FESTIVE.
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@The-Tree-of-Woe said:
Werewolf had Lodges in it, you have to add Bloodlines in, IMMEDIATELY.
Well:
- No.
And:
2. No. - No.
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What if my demon is Mr. Ramesses, and my catalyst is "frogs"?
Y'all finished or y'all done? I ain't go no more talkin'.
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@Huzuruth said:
What if my demon is Mr. Ramesses, and my catalyst is "frogs"?
- No.
- No.
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In all honesty, that's fair. I suppose I'll have enough crud to buy without worrying about another discipline.
HOWEVER -- In all seriousness, I'd like to talk shop at you about your BL list sometime, when you've got time. Not because of what I want to play, you've already seen my toon -- but some of the others.
“Real magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn -
We'll have plenty of time to talk shop about BL over the course of the first six months. I plan on asking people's opinions and what not. I've also been working with @tragedyjones on rewriting the Bloodline disciplines/powers/whatever into Gift+Devotion sets, and we've got some really good ones. He's using them for Reno, so we'll see how they work out there, and it'll be a really good test.
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@Coin Hopefully, whenever I get through the Wolf-Blooded Tells (among other things), @tragedyjones will like what I'm planning to submit for the Dead Wolves enough that you will get a look-see for yourself.
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Relatedly, here's the mechanics from the playtest for Secrets of the Covenants.
http://theonyxpath.com/secrets-covenants-invictus/
I'm not sure how I like changing Courtoise into a merit/style, but...
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Its actual effects are different from the Discipline, so I'm okay with it. It just means the Spina will need their own new name for, and maybe some small changes to, their powers, if we end up going with that.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said:
Its actual effects are different from the Discipline, so I'm okay with it. It just means the Spina will need their own new name for, and maybe some small changes to, their powers, if we end up going with that.
Well, if the Bloodline is in the book itself, I expect it to be treated like the other bloodlines. Devotions to mimic portions of the Discipline, rather than a custom Discipline. So it might not be a bad thing in the long run in general.
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@Bobotron said:
@Coin said:
Its actual effects are different from the Discipline, so I'm okay with it. It just means the Spina will need their own new name for, and maybe some small changes to, their powers, if we end up going with that.
Well, if the Bloodline is in the book itself, I expect it to be treated like the other bloodlines. Devotions to mimic portions of the Discipline, rather than a custom Discipline. So it might not be a bad thing in the long run in general.
Yeah, that's why I said "powers". It's likely they'll get a set of Devotions. I don't think we'll see any Bloodlines in Secrets of the Covenants, to be honest. But Courtoise seems to have become an Invictus Style Merit, so if they keep the Spina as a Bloodline, I suspect they'll change the name of the Gift/Devotions. (Or maybe they won't get a Devotion package, the Kerberos didn't. I would hate that. Some fucking consistency would be nice.)
If Eldritch ends up using custom Bloodlines, they will all have their own Gift + 4 Devotion set up, like Reno is currently moving towards. The Spina's Gift will just have to have a new name, is all.
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Regarding the Invictus stuff, I actually like everything in here. The big failing of the Invictus in Requiem 1e, was that it had no teeth -- the covenant could not enforce its own internal structure, let alone its authority. Now not only does the Invictus have the tools to take and keep power, there are a ton of benefits for non-Invictus for allowing them to do so.
I will note that in my experience regardless of alliances on paper (I might've said this earlier or elsewhere), relations between the Sanctified and the Invictus on MU*s deteriorate almost instantly, in either edition of the game -- maybe it's just the way some people play Sanctified, IDK.
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In my experience the Invictus and LS are allied on every game, ever, and their alliances never break down or suffer even though invariably the LS gets the positions of power and the Invictus get nothing.
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@Admiral said:
In my experience the Invictus and LS are allied on every game, ever, and their alliances never break down or suffer even though invariably the LS gets the positions of power and the Invictus get nothing.
Don't neglect the fact some players only play one kind of thing. So if a few motivated, good RPers end up playing LS (or SL or whatever) on every game, that's what you get.
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I've got no commentary on the quality of players in any specific covenant. I was just stating what happens on every nWoD game that I've been on with a vampire sphere.
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Just to get a start on the hate spiraling and bitter feuding a little bit early, does anybody have any idea what they're planning on playing?
“Real magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn -
@The-Tree-of-Woe said:
Just to get a start on the hate spiraling and bitter feuding a little bit early, does anybody have any idea what they're planning on playing?
I'm planning on playing your mom. Coin's mom needs a break.
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