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    Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.

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    • TNP
      TNP last edited by

      The WHO has raised the mortality rate to 3.4% and it'll probably go higher. Thing is though, there's probably been a lot of under reporting of illness as people just wrote it off as a cold or the flu. So don't let the percentages get to you too much.

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        It's worth pointing out that the %'s are very guesswork-y and vary considerably between reporting institution, so hanging on single % changes is not particularly meaningful (apparently people were accusing my governor of conspiracy theory-esque minimizing the threat because he quoted a lower %, but it was simply from a different source). These are also likely to be higher than the actual mortality rate, because people who are mildly or non-symptomatic account for the bulk of cases yet rarely make it into the statistics at all.

        They are valuable in a comparative sense because other illnesses are measured the same way, with the same flaws, and these %s are an order of magnitude higher than typical flu mortality.

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        • Wretched
          Wretched last edited by

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          • JinShei
            JinShei @Arkandel last edited by

            @Arkandel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

            illegal immigrants

            Refugees are legal, by whatever means they arrive. A peeve of mine. I don't accept that premise of the argument made by the idiots now sitting in old bunkers on the coast of England. Refugees have a right to come to us. They are different to illegal immigrants.

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            • Derp
              Derp Admin @JinShei last edited by

              @JinShei said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

              @Arkandel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

              illegal immigrants

              Refugees are legal, by whatever means they arrive. A peeve of mine. I don't accept that premise of the argument made by the idiots now sitting in old bunkers on the coast of England. Refugees have a right to come to us. They are different to illegal immigrants.

              I've been making the same argument over here, reminding folks that as a matter of international law they are different. Seems nobody cares. It's convenient for their narrative.

              Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.

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                GreenFlashlight @Derp last edited by

                @Derp said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                I've been making the same argument over here, reminding folks that as a matter of international law they are different. Seems nobody cares.

                It's not about the law. It never was. If it was, then people would care what the law actually says. It's about white supremacists wanting to be white supremacists while pretending they're not white supremacists, that's all.

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                • Arkandel
                  Arkandel Admin @GreenFlashlight last edited by

                  @GreenFlashlight said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                  @Derp said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                  I've been making the same argument over here, reminding folks that as a matter of international law they are different. Seems nobody cares.

                  It's not about the law. It never was. If it was, then people would care what the law actually says. It's about white supremacists wanting to be white supremacists while pretending they're not white supremacists, that's all.

                  Note that in Europe racism is (slightly) different. It's not about skin color per se, there is plenty of racism against people who look paler than the local populace but come from the 'wrong' country. All it takes is to sound different, follow another religion, even to speak a variation of your language - not even a different one!

                  The other factor there is poverty. The southern countries are not in good shape, and that's very fertile ground for racism to take hold because there can be legitimate arguments about how viable it is to host seemingly endless waves of refugees. International treaties (EU ones, in this case) are actually to blame.

                  For instance once someone hits Greece's shores they cannot be allowed to move onto northern Europe which, let's face it, is what they actually want. They need to go through legal procedures and be accepted by the wealthier countries, which takes lengthy procedures and oversight. Nor can they be sent back, for the most part, not because of humanitarian reasons (I wish...) but because in many cases they purposefully don't have any papers - those get destroyed before the journey back.

                  So while things are somehow figured out the refugee camps just swell in size and numbers, the host country can't afford to improve their conditions, and they can't leave. That's a pretty explosive combination in the long term.

                  • He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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                  • Ganymede
                    Ganymede Admin @Arkandel last edited by

                    @Arkandel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                    For instance once someone hits Greece's shores they cannot be allowed to move onto northern Europe which, let's face it, is what they actually want. They need to go through legal procedures and be accepted by the wealthier countries, which takes lengthy procedures and oversight.

                    Emphasis added.

                    Racism and tribalism are but symptoms of the ancient evil of classism.

                    “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                    • Wretched
                      Wretched last edited by

                      Apparently a main ingredient of coough medicine is not good with prozac and messes with serotonin, whee.

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                      • Aria
                        Aria last edited by

                        Fuck bronchitis.

                        https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
                        There were never any good old days. They are today. They are tomorrow. It's a stupid thing we say, cursing tomorrow with sorrow. -- Gogol Bordello

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                          GreenFlashlight @Aria last edited by

                          @Aria said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                          Fuck bronchitis.

                          Six days later, I still find it exhausting to lift my arms high enough to wash my hair.

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                          • silverfox
                            silverfox last edited by

                            I think I might have sprained my ankle. Not badly, but it hurts to put weight on. >.> It'll make tomorrow interesting to walk around the classroom.

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                            • mietze
                              mietze last edited by

                              I feel my stomach drop. My kids are out of school until April 24th ar earliest. This will blow through my entire sick time, the 5 days of emergency child care funding and possibly all of the vacation days I rolled over and may still not be enough.

                              If I dont have a sense of humor about coronavirus this plus now graduation ceremony probably being a no go, the numerous people i know who are sick, the dead person I know, ect is why.

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                                Warma Sheen @mietze last edited by

                                @mietze When they cancel school for this I wonder if they thought about where the kids who go and who would be taking care of them. If you can afford daycare you are still putting a bunch of kids together all day. If you can't you have to miss work to take care of them. I don't know that the logic of it holds.

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                                • silverfox
                                  silverfox @Warma Sheen last edited by

                                  @Warma-Sheen

                                  The answer is yes.

                                  We have thought about it.

                                  EXHAUSTIVELY.

                                  My superintendent looks like she is about to drop dead because she isn't sleeping right now trying to figure everything out.

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                                  • Ganymede
                                    Ganymede Admin @Warma Sheen last edited by

                                    @Warma-Sheen

                                    Kids actually have a low chance for developing symptoms too.

                                    But they are susceptible to infection regardless and spread infection like nothing else known to man.

                                    We all know that this will be a strain on families, but so is a dead member.

                                    It's a reasonable choice in unreasonable times.

                                    “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                                    • Quinn
                                      Quinn last edited by

                                      One school system here is out until APRIL 27th.

                                      Another has suspended school indefinitely.

                                      Ours is out for two weeks.

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                                      • Auspice
                                        Auspice last edited by

                                        For the past week and a half or so I've had this on-again-off-again cold. I'll wake up one day feeling fine and then the next it's back to fever and migraine and general blahs.

                                        Makes the job hunt a bitch.

                                        Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.

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                                        • mietze
                                          mietze @Warma Sheen last edited by

                                          @Warma-Sheen in our district yes. There are many many hours being put into it.

                                          Our district is still serving lunch and breakfast to all who place orders and delivering to about 12 different schools for pickup. They are also delivering to families that are homebound. They are trying to help with childcare but still stay in the guidelines that the state has mandated. They are trying to find ways to serve special needs students as well though that equity issue is very hard and that is not going as well. Every student who needed one has had a device (tablet) delivered or made available for pickup along with hotspots for those families who do not have home internet access.

                                          They are working their asses off. It has been a huge hurdle that was incompletely leapt and we are one of the wealthier districts in the area.

                                          But there is a lot going on in this area beyond schools. This week my kids basically had all day school at home (not sustainable and probably 3-4 times the amount of outside time for teacher prep than normal, and now ALL schools in our county are closed by state mandate so that's even less sustainable for the teachers).

                                          But yes, in our district and state SDs have been instructed to keep meal service at least for free and reduced lunch kiddos going (I worry for less resources districts as to how they'll be able to deliver).

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                                          • Tinuviel
                                            Tinuviel @mietze last edited by

                                            @mietze said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                                            There are many many hours being put into it.

                                            Same out here. I get to put "Member of the <district> Viral Catastrophe Management Committee" on my CV now.

                                            He/Him

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