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    Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.

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    • mietze
      mietze last edited by mietze

      ooops, wrong section!

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      • Ganymede
        Ganymede Admin @Wretched last edited by

        @wretched said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

        My boss has offered uys a 'Pizza Party' if we sell more of our promotional signup bs.

        How about giving everyone a specific bonus for meeting or exceeding quota?

        “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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        • Wizz
          Wizz last edited by Wizz

          So this is...kind of a weird one, but I was hoping our resident lawyers might have a suggestion.

          My father is a complete garbage human being. Just awful. He's guilty of physical and sexual abuse of minors, all sorts of fraud, embezzlement, etc. Like...I don't even know how or where the list ends. He's been involved in the "Troubled Teen" boarding school industry since the nineties and if you've ever heard rumors of some horrible atrocity they might be guilty of, I am positive he's done it. There are survivor web forums with entire threads dedicated to this man, and the New York Times had a pretty serious hate-on for him in the early aughts.

          I cut him off about ten years ago and have tried to encourage my younger sisters to do the same ever since, and to my relief my closest sister has finally done it in the last two years. And now she wants to like, bring him down. I am all for it, but have zero idea where we would even begin.

          Somehow, like literally maybe some pact with Satan or some shit, he has avoided any real jail time. He has dozens of aliases and moves around the country frequently. He's abused us, for certain, but that was all years ago and we don't really have concrete proof of the rest? Just social media stories from former students that for some fucking reason parents are still still sending to live with this fucking guy. We believe he is a clear and active danger to the minors with him.

          We know he stalks former female students through Facebook and my sister wants to maybe create a fake profile to try and trap him somehow but I have no idea what the legality of that is.

          Do we just get a lawyer? Reach out to law enforcement around his favorite haunts? the FBI???

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          • Ganymede
            Ganymede Admin @Wizz last edited by

            @wizz said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

            We know he stalks former female students through Facebook and my sister wants to maybe create a fake profile to try and trap him somehow but I have no idea what the legality of that is.

            It is not entrapment if a "sting" is pulled off by a private citizen.

            As a resident lawyer, all I can tell you is that you neither have to forgive or forget him, but there is something to be said about hitting the "ignore" button on him. Write him out completely and pretend he never existed. Dissociate yourself from even wondering.

            May save yourself the headache.

            But, I mean, if you want one of us to hunt him down --

            “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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            • Wizz
              Wizz @Ganymede last edited by

              @ganymede

              I had written him off for the better part of a decade, but because my youngest sisters are still involved with him I wind up hearing more and more about the shit he does and (sometimes worse to me) the shit he was doing that I had no idea about when I was younger, and the more I learn the more awful I feel about having not done something more to prevent the harm he's caused and is still causing.

              My sister and I really wanna do something to help. I mean, seriously, if you weren't being facetious about going after him, hit me up in a message.

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              • Cupcake
                Cupcake @Wizz last edited by

                Discovering Dua Lupa's music: Awesome.
                Discovering Dua Lupa is an anti-semite: Not so awesome.

                Don't mind me, I'll be in the corner over here figuring out where she falls on my Death of the Author scale.

                "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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                • ILuvGrumpyCat
                  ILuvGrumpyCat Banned @Cupcake last edited by

                  @cupcake Just for curiosity, where and what did she say that was anti-semitic? Hadn't heard anything in the news.

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                    • Cupcake
                      Cupcake @Missingno last edited by Cupcake

                      @cassite

                      She goes on to accuse Israelis of being "fake Jews". And that the Israeli government "created" Hamas.

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                      "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                      -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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                      • ILuvGrumpyCat
                        ILuvGrumpyCat Banned @Cupcake last edited by ILuvGrumpyCat

                        @cupcake Just to point out, she is sharing someone else's post. That's not her saying it, according to that article it's a director that made the post.

                        Assign correct blame is all I'm saying.

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                        • Derp
                          Derp Admin @Cupcake last edited by Derp

                          @cupcake

                          To add to that: she also calls out Christians in the midwest, presumably as political actors using religiously-grounded statements of ideology to pass and enforce destructive legislation that the religion ostensibly actually opposes. Making it a hypocritical point.

                          Not sure that just being anti-Israeli-shenanigans makes one an antisemite.

                          Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.

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                            • Cupcake
                              Cupcake @ILuvGrumpyCat last edited by

                              @iluvgrumpycat I'm not sure that "oh, she was just sharing someone else's sentiment" is a viable excuse. I mean, she clearly didn't post it because she disagreed.

                              @Derp I'm equally not sure that "oh, she also dissed this other group" makes it viable, either.

                              Can you criticize the Israeli government? Absolutely. But criticizing Israel's existence? 100% anti-semitism.

                              "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                              -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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                              • ILuvGrumpyCat
                                ILuvGrumpyCat Banned @Cupcake last edited by ILuvGrumpyCat

                                @cupcake The only reason I said what I said was to correct where you said "she went in to say", because she did not. She said nothing, and you assigned the source of the words to her.

                                What she shared is problematic because she shared it, and is assigning support for those words. But she also did not author the comment originally.

                                Edit to add. If there's a direct comment from her in your picture, please point it out. The way it reads is that the entire long paragraph is from this director guy. I can't tell where her comment is.

                                Also, please don't put words in my mouth. I was not making excuses for her, I was pointing out that I did not read that as being authored in anyway by her and you were saying it was.

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                                • Sunny
                                  Sunny @ILuvGrumpyCat last edited by Sunny

                                  @iluvgrumpycat

                                  She didn't. @Cupcake said "accuse", which is possible by sharing somebody else's post.

                                  eta: this thing you're "correcting" never happened. Cupcake did NOT say "she went on to say" and she did NOT attribute the words themselves to the woman, so maybe you should slow your roll about OTHER people putting words in peoples' mouths.

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yUYvyAY954

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                                  • Ganymede
                                    Ganymede Admin @ILuvGrumpyCat last edited by Ganymede

                                    @iluvgrumpycat said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                                    I was pointing out that I did not read that as being authored in anyway by her and you were saying it was.

                                    I see what you're saying, but if someone were posting up excepts from Mein Kampf, The Goebbels Diaries, and Gotterdammerung I may think they are a Nazi, and I think that's reasonable.

                                    “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                                    • Tinuviel
                                      Tinuviel last edited by Tinuviel

                                      It's entirely possible she, a young person, shared it because she agreed with part of what it said, and then deleted it when she realised the full implication.

                                      Young people do stupid stuff while trying to do good stuff all the time.

                                      ETA: And I'd probably support the argument that corrupt people in positions of authority, or supporters of said corrupt people, are "fake X-religion." It is difficult to have a nuanced argument on Instagram.

                                      He/Him

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                                        Testament @Derp last edited by

                                        @derp said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                                        @cupcake

                                        To add to that: she also calls out Christians in the midwest, presumably as political actors using religiously-grounded statements of ideology to pass and enforce destructive legislation that the religion ostensibly actually opposes. Making it a hypocritical point.

                                        Not sure that just being anti-Israeli-shenanigans makes one an antisemite.

                                        I don't think this should be relegated to the just the midwest politicians, speaking as someone from the midwest. Which is tangential to the topic being discussed.

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                                        • Cupcake
                                          Cupcake @Tinuviel last edited by

                                          @tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                                          ETA: And I'd probably support the argument that corrupt people in positions of authority, or supporters of said corrupt people, are "fake X-religion." It is difficult to have a nuanced argument on Instagram.

                                          This a complicated idea. Being Jewish is about more than just being part of a religion, it's also an ethnic identity. And there's a huge anti-Zionist sentiment that insists that Jews, especially Ashkenazi, are European colonialists, which completely erases our identities and origins. So when someone accuses Israelis of being "Fake-Jews" it's an undercurrent of something more than just religion, it's an attempt to invalidate our goal to de-colonize.

                                          "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                                          -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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                                          • Sunny
                                            Sunny last edited by

                                            “Israel created Hamas SIMPLY to justify their actions” seems pretty fucking cut and dry anti-Semitic to me. YMMV I guess.

                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yUYvyAY954

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