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    • Arkandel
      Arkandel Admin @Macha last edited by

      I'm just gonna leave this here.

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/alex-jones-lawyer-sent-text-messages-sandy-hook-parents-defamation-trial-184125918.html

      • He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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      • Misadventure
        Misadventure last edited by

        Well, that's some fine lawyerin' there.

        I have a waggish sense of humor.

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        • Ganymede
          Ganymede Admin @Misadventure last edited by

          @Misadventure said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

          Well, that's some fine lawyerin' there.

          Just because documents are produced to your lawyers does not mean those documents are protected by attorney-client privilege.

          Sounds to me like those text messages were requested through discovery and properly produced.

          “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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          • faraday
            faraday @Ganymede last edited by

            @Ganymede said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

            Just because documents are produced to your lawyers does not mean those documents are protected by attorney-client privilege.

            Perhaps you can shed some light, because the reporting on this seems weird. On the one hand they say the phone copy was provided "accidentally" but on the other hand they say that when the lawyers were informed, they confirmed it wasn't privileged. Does that maybe mean they goofed by turning over more than they needed to, but not necessarily anything privileged?

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            • Ganymede
              Ganymede Admin @faraday last edited by Ganymede

              @faraday

              I do not know all the specifics, but it is safe to presume that Alex Jones' attorneys are probably competent.

              As I said, just because you give a document to your lawyer does not mean the document is protected by attorney-client privilege. Communications with your attorneys are protected and these communications can include e-mails, letters, and other written correspondence made directly with one's attorneys. In this case, text messages were produced by the attorneys from Mr. Jones' phone. Unless those text messages were exchanged between Mr. Jones and his attorneys (or someone else with whom Mr. Jones may claim a privilege, like his spouse, his priest, or his doctors, or his psychologist), there's a good chance that they are discoverable, which means their production can be compelled. Had the messages been actually privileged there would have been all sorts of motions filed by now.

              From what I've read, the text messages reveal that Mr. Jones knew that he was spreading false information, but didn't care. It also showed that Mr. Jones likely perjured himself on the stand. In either case, I am glad this case is moving forward because this is probably the only way to rein in these shock-jock faux-news shills, short of beating the shit out of them publicly.

              “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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              • Derp
                Derp Admin last edited by

                He also put up a segment on InfoWars alleging that Judge Maya Gamble, his judge, was involved in child trafficking and pedophilia, also showing the judge on fire, which was played in the courtroom in front of the judge.

                And that the members of the jury were shills and plants that "don't even know what planet they are on," which in turn prompted the jury to submit a question read by Judge Gamble:

                "Are you aware that this jury consists of 16 intelligent and fair-minded citizens who are not being improperly influenced in any way?”

                popcorn

                I mean, I know that he's shooting for a mistrial to buy himself some time but damn if this isn't funny to watch anyway.

                Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.

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                  Selira @Ganymede last edited by Selira

                  @Ganymede

                  It does look like Reynal fucked up. He filed an emergency motion to dismiss the evidence and is claiming this as grounds for a mistrial.

                  Thread from a Vice reporter on what's happening in court today: https://twitter.com/annamerlan/status/1555200634693230594

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                  • Ganymede
                    Ganymede Admin @Selira last edited by

                    @Selira said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

                    Thread from a Vice reporter on what's happening in court today: https://twitter.com/annamerlan/status/1555200634693230594

                    Looks like the presumption of competence has been rebutted.

                    Someone's probably going to lose his license to practice, and I can't say that I'm surprised or concerned.

                    “It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                    • Derp
                      Derp Admin @Ganymede last edited by

                      @Ganymede

                      This is what @reimesu and I were talking about yesterday.

                      Bad day for his lawyers. Good day for everyone else.

                      Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.

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