Good or New Movies Review

Tempest · Dec 31, 2019, 12:02 AM

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

Then they can have my money and my support in time.

Am I missing something or is this being said after seeing 2 new Disney movies in the span of what, a ~~week~~month?

ETA : F2 came out last month my bad.

GreenFlashlight · Dec 31, 2019, 12:11 AM

@Derp said in Good or New Movies Review:

Or, you could just be looking so hard that you're suffering a confirmation bias.

I could be, but I'm not. I didn't go into this looking for visual vagina metaphors or songs about how the protagonist is trying to fight down her feelings but she just can't because though they're scary and will throw her life as she's always known it into chaos they still represent her inner truth that she can no longer suppress. Those things are in there whether I am looking for them or not.

@Groth said in Good or New Movies Review:

When has Disney ever said they are an ally?

See also the rainbow-colored Mickey Mouse hats they sell during Pride Month. I think I mentioned those already but can't be bothered to check.

GreenFlashlight · Dec 31, 2019, 12:12 AM

@Tempest said in Good or New Movies Review:

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

Then they can have my money and my support in time.

Am I missing something or is this being said after seeing 2 new Disney movies in the span of what, a ~~week~~month?

ETA : F2 came out last month my bad.

Don't remember saying I paid for the tickets.

GreenFlashlight · Dec 31, 2019, 12:12 AM

@Arkandel said in Good or New Movies Review:

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

In the first place, I do not care about a person's intentions when compared to the outcomes of their actions. If you only accidentally hit me in the nose, does my nose stop bleeding once I know it wasn't your intention?

I think you are taking this a bit too personally.

I don't mean Frozen. I mean this thread's comments.

Okay. What would you like me to do?

Derp · Dec 31, 2019, 12:19 AM

@Wizz said in Good or New Movies Review:

my super-conservative and religious bro in law came back from Frozen 2 saying there was something "very weird" about it.

Well... yeah. It's a movie about an empowered female witch who refuses to conform to the expectations of society and speaks her mind freely as an authority figure.

Jennkryst · Dec 31, 2019, 12:21 AM

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

In other, late news, the new Star Wars movie is pretty alright.

So alright, in fact, that the writers are trying to throw everyone else under the bus to justify why it is so bad, up to and including blaming Carrie Fisher for 'how hard it was to write scenes and dialogue to integrate archived footage of her'.

Groth · Dec 31, 2019, 3:26 PM

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

See also the rainbow-colored Mickey Mouse hats they sell during Pride Month. I think I mentioned those already but can't be bothered to check.

That is blatant profiteering merchandising. Not a statement of support. Disney would sell nazi Donald duck plushies at far right rallies if they thought it would make them net profit.

GreenFlashlight · Dec 31, 2019, 12:35 AM

@Groth said in Good or New Movies Review:

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

See also the rainbow-colored Mickey Mouse hats they sell during Pride Month. I think I mentioned those already but can't be bothered to check.

That is blatant profiteering merchandising. Not a statement of support.

So, to be clear here, you're saying Disney wants people to say to themselves as they purchase these products, "Ah, yes, this hat is definitely not intended to be perceived as a sign of support for the people to whom it is targeted?" That is the attitude Disney is trying to foster, is it?

GreenFlashlight · Dec 31, 2019, 12:36 AM

@Jennkryst said in Good or New Movies Review:

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

In other, late news, the new Star Wars movie is pretty alright.

So alright, in fact, that the writers are trying to throw everyone else under the bus to justify why it is so bad, up to and including blaming Carrie Fisher for 'how hard it was to write scenes and dialogue to integrate archived footage of her'.

I have not seen those attempts at bus-throwing, so cannot comment beyond saying what the writers say or do not say to control the PR does not affect my analysis of the movie's execution.

Arkandel · Dec 31, 2019, 1:09 AM

@Groth said in Good or New Movies Review:

@GreenFlashlight said in Good or New Movies Review:

See also the rainbow-colored Mickey Mouse hats they sell during Pride Month. I think I mentioned those already but can't be bothered to check.

That is blatant profiteering merchandising. Not a statement of support. Disney would sell nazi Donald duck plushies at far right rallies if they thought it would make them net profit.

Donald Duck does not fuck around, my friend.

Also, did you actually want a Disney/Nazi crossover?

Cupcake · Dec 31, 2019, 3:26 PM

@Groth said in Good or New Movies Review:

That is blatant profiteering merchandising. Not a statement of support. Disney would sell nazi Donald duck plushies at far right rallies if they thought it would make them net profit.

Hey now, Donald Duck is a veteran of World War II and has absolutely no problem punching Nazis. Show some goddamn respect.

(My tongue is firmly planted in cheek, if it wasn't clear.)

Ghost · Dec 31, 2019, 3:29 PM

Sucks that we only see Mickey and the gang in Kingdom Hearts, these days.

Make some more Donald, Minnie, Mickey, and Goofy shit, Disney.

Derp · Dec 31, 2019, 3:30 PM

@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:

Sucks that we only see Mickey and the gang in Kingdom Hearts, these days.

Make some more Donald, Minnie, Mickey, and Goofy shit, Disney.

Do you have kids?

If so, you'd probably know about the evil that is Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

Auspice · Jan 1, 2020, 6:03 PM

I think one of the few cases in recent years where a company truly made strides as opposed to 'just slap a rainbow on it and make us some $$$' was Target. Because they took a holistic approach to inclusivity. You can find cards at a Target specifically for gay or lesbian relationships, not just 'eh, put some neutral cards out; those will work' type stuff. They acknowledged 'A wife may want a card for her wife' or 'People may want to wish both grooms congratulations' and saw it through.

I think, for a lot of people, that's the sort of thing they want to see. Sure, it's fun to have rainbow mouse ears if you go to Disney, but if that's all they have to offer, it sort of stings too to know that it wasn't worth the effort of putting any more thought into it than 'rainbow stuff = $$$'

Ghost · Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 PM

@Derp said in Good or New Movies Review:

@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:

Sucks that we only see Mickey and the gang in Kingdom Hearts, these days.

Make some more Donald, Minnie, Mickey, and Goofy shit, Disney.

Do you have kids?

If so, you'd probably know about the evil that is Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

Nope, at least not "kid like" kids. It's just a shame to see Disney pushing the button hardcore on all of these characters that aren't their flagship characters. A good Pixar-type Mickey and the Gang movie might be fun.

In other news, I'd have sold my kid to disney if I knew he'd have come back with Timberlake money

Auspice · Dec 31, 2019, 3:44 PM

@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:

A good Pixar-type Mickey and the Gang movie might be fun.

I'll be honest... I think this would be a terrible idea. Partly because what I'm envisioning is just pure horror. I hate every depiction of Mickey and Co in a more 3D/CGI style. They're just... meant for the hand drawn art style gdi.

faraday · Dec 31, 2019, 3:46 PM

@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:

Nope, at least not "kid like" kids. It's just a shame to see Disney pushing the button hardcore on all of these characters that aren't their flagship characters. A good Pixar-type Mickey and the Gang movie might be fun.

As @Derp mentioned, they push those characters a lot for the preschool-age crowd. There are multiple TV shows, TV movies, toys, music -- oh dear lord the Christmas music; I'm going on ten years now of listening to Goofy singing White Christmas every year... trust me, Mickey and the Gang are alive and well I am surprised they haven't tried a full theatrical release though.

Auspice · Dec 31, 2019, 3:47 PM

@faraday said in Good or New Movies Review:

@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:

Nope, at least not "kid like" kids. It's just a shame to see Disney pushing the button hardcore on all of these characters that aren't their flagship characters. A good Pixar-type Mickey and the Gang movie might be fun.

As @Derp mentioned, they push those characters a lot for the preschool-age crowd. There are multiple TV shows, TV movies, toys, music -- oh dear lord the Christmas music; I'm going on ten years now of listening to Goofy singing White Christmas every year... trust me, Mickey and the Gang are alive and well I am surprised they haven't tried a full theatrical release though.

because nothing will ever compare to the perfection that is A Goofy Movie

Ghost · Dec 31, 2019, 3:50 PM

@Auspice Goofy movie was the shit. It was a GORSH DARN masterpiece.

Lotherio · Dec 31, 2019, 3:59 PM

For what it's worth if your not familiar with They Might Be Giants work in children's genres, they perform the Meeska Moosa variant at the opening of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse as well as the ending song Hot Dog. They also are in Coraline with the other father song. They still do their own music as well and are touring in 2020.