I used to hate unfindable code, but now I've seen and had too many incidents of +where causing OOC drama to give a damn.
I've been on lots of game with RP channels. Some of them also had +RP codes that set flags, let you see who wants RP, etc. I've never seen them used. I also don't think anyone can 'make' something part of a culture. It's either adopted or its not. More, if asking on a sphere channel for RP and on public for RP and in the OOC Room for RP gets no response? More code isn't going to do anything.
Edited to add: Not that having the code hurts anything. Sure, have it.
@TNP Agreed, with the caveat that w/ "looking for group" code/flag you give players the ability to post out on the grid with the flag up. That tells people that yes, please come and RP with me.
Then when it's all over and the rest of you are ready for Dead Animal Pickup, I'm gonna go balls deep into Dahl. But only because she asked me to. Sweet-like. - Riddick (2013)
@TNP said:
I've been on lots of game with RP channels. Some of them also had +RP codes that set flags, let you see who wants RP, etc. I've never seen them used. I also don't think anyone can 'make' something part of a culture. It's either adopted or its not. More, if asking on a sphere channel for RP and on public for RP and in the OOC Room for RP gets no response? More code isn't going to do anything.
Edited to add: Not that having the code hurts anything. Sure, have it.
Eh, I disagree that there aren't steps you can take to at least GREATLY ENCOURAGE certain items into being adopted as game culture.
@ThatOneDude Though just looking at +where and seeing who's IC can do the same thing. With one caveat: STOP idling in public IC rooms people! I hate that. While I dislike the unfindable flag in general, build a private room and set it unfindable. Or just go the Quiet Room.
@Silver said:
@Thisnameistaken said:
And I hate the Unfindable code. Personal peeve.
Unfindable code is great. You don't need to be able to see that I have a secret room or even a base on-grid by using +where. Nor is it necessarily anybody else's business who I am having secret meetings with. people can and do use that knowledge OOC.
Can we PLEASE stop making rules based on the very few bad apples, and instead start getting rid of the bad apples? This isn't at you, @Silver, but an illustration of the trend.
@Sunny said:
Can we PLEASE stop making rules based on the very few bad apples, and instead start getting rid of the bad apples? This isn't at you, @Silver, but an illustration of the trend.
I get tired of people utilizing +where to see who I'm playing with so they can page me some snarky horseshit about whoever that person is or try to give me a hard time about them, or sexually harass or slut-shame me about how they know I'm TSing them, "collecting a harem", even when I'm not, or just to annoy me with their garbage.
I set myself unfindable and make unfindable builds all the time, and the problem becomes 75% solved. And I don't care. And anybody who doesn't like it can eat it! You wanna know where I am, stop being a creeper and ask me! So it probably should be at me, if it wasn't before, because I abuse the hell out of unfindable and will do it forever.
But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
-Mark Twain
@TNP Right, but with the flag you have the ability to cut down on some of the potential weirdness that can come up from just popping into a room to ask to RP. If anything its a way to facilitate RP which in a Mu*, for the most part that's what we should be looking to do, right?
@Silver I wish I would get slut-shamed...
"Oooooh, look you're in that event w/ 15 dudes, how many of you are doing the walrus?!"
Then when it's all over and the rest of you are ready for Dead Animal Pickup, I'm gonna go balls deep into Dahl. But only because she asked me to. Sweet-like. - Riddick (2013)
@ThatOneDude Happens All. The. Time!
Just because the Prince did a Dirty Sanchez on his ghoul doesn't mean I was there beating off to it. It was all part of the artistic statement of the moment, the way he was indulging in kinky sexual activity to bolster his self-identity against the Beast and...
WTFever it was hot. Two Ghouls, One Cup. 
@TNP said:
STOP idling in public IC rooms people! I hate that.
I know, right? I love getting reamed out for posing in a public grid room for disturbing someone's idling.
@SG "Why would you assume I'm really here just because I'm here? GAWD."
@Thisnameistaken said:
The problem is that people don't use it.
This makes any concept difficult to justify putting time into. In fact, if a lot of people don't engage a concept, I would start to question the concept. I'm not a populist, mind you, but when coding for a Mu* you're mainly coding engagement tools. If you think a concept is worth it but it's not being used, find a different way to engage people. i.e., in this case I don't think it's the problem is in the people who don't use it.
@TNP said:
@ThatOneDude Though just looking at +where and seeing who's IC can do the same thing. With one caveat: STOP idling in public IC rooms people!
Note to self: Bring over Reach's idle-move code. It will pick on people who are not OOC and not 'home'.
@Silver said:
You wanna know where I am, stop being a creeper and ask me!
So hey bebe, where are ya and whaddya wearin'?
Disclaimer: I haven't the foggiest who you are, and was going to go with a Minecraft creeper joke, but this is much more on topic.
Could someone explain why its necessary to know at all times where or who other players are with, save to know where ones faction RP might be? Anything more directed at a specific character I would assume can be arranged via a quick page.
Edited to add "at all times" because @Templari pointed out the obvious sometimes use Thank you T). I am picking at the logic that Unfindable is always bad, or based on bad apple logic.
I have a waggish sense of humor.
@Misadventure said:
Could someone explain why its necessary to know where or who other players are with, save to know where ones faction RP might be? Anything more directed at a specific character I would assume can be arranged via a quick page.
Simple. Meeting new people. Groups on a public grid spot should be, uh, spottable?
I could care less if names are displayed, but some folks want to avoid certain people, so I can sympathize.
+hangouts code isn't always complete as to whats public and not.
I dislike the unfindable flag on principle but I use it, because it might just be a few bad apple but boy are they bad.
One every game I start out findable and then only turn on unfindable after getting pages about why are you rping with so and so, or omg you are in a private room you must be tsing or what not.
Sadly it is not an isolated thing i end up setting myself unfindable on between 1/2 and 2/3 or the games I have played on. ddly enough I must not attract the popular type of crazy cause Reach was one of them I never had to.
@ThatGuyThere said:
Sadly it is not an isolated thing i end up setting myself unfindable on between 1/2 and 2/3 or the games I have played on. ddly enough I must not attract the popular type of crazy cause Reach was one of them I never had to.
This is a fallacy; The Reach simply had more people to be crazy at and you got lucky.
So here is my deal: I like random meetups, but I have found that VERY often once there are 3-4 people in some public place, I get inundated with people coming in, who are attracted by the people already present, but who don't want to be part of that scene. So they bring in new times of day, varied posing rates and IC time coverage, along with all their antics, and pretty much destroy what I was doing, and move on.
So now when you see me in "Popular Cafe - That Popular Zone" check carefully, and you'll see its an RP room. So, would you rather be faked out, or see Unfindable?
Yes I will full on steal the desc of popular places for a RP Room so I can do a scene there, if I don't want to write up a new place, which admittedly I also like doing.
I have a waggish sense of humor.
Could someone explain why its necessary to know at all times where or who other players are with, save to know where ones faction RP might be? Anything more directed at a specific character I would assume can be arranged via a quick page.
Edited to add "at all times" because @Templari pointed out the obvious sometimes use Thank you T). I am picking at the logic that Unfindable is always bad, or based on bad apple logic.
