@SG I dunno, considering a lot of the shitstorm was banning subreddits that were doxxing, harassing and generally being assholes overtly, I think it's fantastic.
We really don't need Stormfront's subreddits or fatpeoplehate or transgender hating subreddits that think trying to drive a 16 year old transperson to suicide is hilarious.
@mietze I'm going to the Korean spa in Dallas soon! God you're right, it's soooooooo amazing!! Getting scrubbed within an inch of your life by an ajumma in her underwear is magical.
As for the rest-
I loved fatpeoplehate. It was my daily motivation. I also enjoyed the hypocrisy of people trying to dox 'fatshamers' while freaking out when people posted public pictures that they themselves put online. Because that makes total sense.
I mean, yay let's celebrate censorship so long as it's censoring the people we don't like/disagree with. I've found people would put way more energy into trying to silence people than they will in showing love and acceptance to the targets.
Fun? What is this fun thou speakest of?
@Luna Honestly, it was sad how fatpeoplehate hated even people trying to lose weight and get in shape. They were just an ugly, toxic community. Harassing and doxxing was just the upper end of it.
Then again, I've noticed a lot of 'mock' and 'hate' communities seem to turn toxic.
People adapt their behaviors to the perceived norm of the space. This means a slide into toxicity. If the topic is about momentary laughs, it can laugh forever. If there is a longer term topic, eventually the toxicity impairs or cripples that discussion. Any legitimate discussion is more likely to be lost in the noise or avoided just because of where it occurs. Eventually, you'll prune out the core topic and be left with only the toxicity.
@silentsophia Doxing and identification weren't allowed. Brigading wasn't allowed. Post calling for brigades got you banned. It's not hard to figure out what content came from another sub and what that sub was so users would get crazy. People got banned. Also, any form of calling someone fat on Reddit was instantly blamed on fatpeoplehate.
As for the hating on people losing weight, eh. Sorta. More like hating on 'I totally stayed under 2000 calories this week! Yay diet! Time for a cheat meal of half a cake!' Or 'I weighed 300 pounds, 2 months later I'm down to 295!' There are people who posted 'progress pics' one week and one pound into weight loss. One girl posted a before and after over .6 pounds lost. Look, I'm all about encouragement but holy shit. Do you want a medal? I can swing 2-3 pounds any given day and more than 5 from morning to night.
Am I saying its a super happy rainbow land of goodness? Fuck no. I have a few people on my Facebook from there though and they're the best. It also kept me from going postal on people. It's cathardic. I'm extremely bitter over the way I let others manipulate me. Is it healthy? Ffft. Nope. My doctor said it was a good thing for me though. A safe space to express myself with like minded individuals until I grew comfortable and confident enough to spread my wings and tell people firmly, yet politely, that they need to either be supportive or get the fuck out of my life.
Losing weight has lost me more friends than being outspoken about my feelings has, so it didn't even take getting confident enough to vocally disagree. How dare I lose weight. How rude is it that I refuse to eat your food, quietly and politely. Positively criminal that I'm not having a slice of your cake. Please, scold me because I ordered a kids meal with you IN PUBLIC, which seemed to embarrass you. The worst one was getting yelled at and then unfriended and shit talked behind my back because I lost weight on psych meds, with an underactive thyroid, celiacs, PCOS, and fibromyalgia. I got yelled at for having an illness and then told that I'm a liar because I couldn't possibly have anything wrong with me and lose weight. Oh, and I'm a vile bitch full of vitriol because I won't fuck someone who's really fat.
Let me reiterate that, I won't fuck someone I find unattractive and bad for me, so I'm a vile bitch.
So yeah, I laugh at the butthurt because if you're really happy being fat, you wouldn't be butthurt. You can change your weight and the fat people who compare fat 'discrimination' to racism are awful people and I don't feel even a little bad.
How many people play fat characters on a MU apart from comedy relief or a fetish? And of those, how many are over 300 pounds? 200 pounds even? Exactly.
Me personally? I don't really hate fat people. I hate fat activists and feeders. Telling someone it's healthy and ok to be morbidly obese is sick. Telling people it's literally impossible to lose weight is horrible. Viciously attacking anyone less fat than you is deploreable. Like I tell my friends, I love you and I won't watch you kill yourself with food. There's a point at which we can no longer be friends. I wouldn't watch my friends kill themselves with drugs, or cigarettes, and I won't do it with food either. I honestly think standing up for myself is perhaps the reason I'm no longer friends with Troy after I got into it with her mother over PCOS and weight loss.
In fairness, PCOS can make it a complete bitch to lose weight. Fatpeoplehate was less about actually helping fat people and more about shaming them, making fun of them and people wishing they would just die. Fatpeoplehate got banned when they doxxed Imgur staff and had a habit of reposting people's private pictures, among other harassing behavior. They were pretty shitty in general - to the point of making fun of people who DID try to better themselves by living healthier and exercising.
But there were also some pretty good fitness and motivation subreddits. And different people sometimes need more reassurance. It is all good. I'm sorry that people have trashed on you for weight loss. That's rough.
Then again, I've had people make some nasty comments about me deciding to eat a burger, so there's that. 
I imagine more people need to bug off about what others are doing.
@silentsophia said:
In fairness, PCOS can make it a complete bitch to lose weight. Fatpeoplehate was less about actually helping fat people and more about shaming them, making fun of them and people wishing they would just die. Fatpeoplehate got banned when they doxxed Imgur staff and had a habit of reposting people's private pictures, among other harassing behavior. They were pretty shitty in general - to the point of making fun of people who DID try to better themselves by living healthier and exercising.
But there were also some pretty good fitness and motivation subreddits. And different people sometimes need more reassurance. It is all good. I'm sorry that people have trashed on you for weight loss. That's rough.
Then again, I've had people make some nasty comments about me deciding to eat a burger, so there's that.
Yeah, this is what I don't get about people that think 'shaming' somehow gets people motivated to lose weight, when it clearly does not work, has never worked, and never ever will work. I personally know someone who is quite large, who responds the opposite way to 'fat shaming' than the fat shamers expect: they cry, and then they EAT, no matter how counterintuitive anyone thinks that reaction to "fat shaming" would be.
PCOS doesn't make you gain 200+ pounds though, which is what people like to claim. Nor does your thyroid. It accounts for maybe 20 pounds. If you want to be fat, that's fine. Go for it. But don't get the science wrong, that drives me absolutely batty. As for either making it harder to lose weight? I had an easier, faster time than my best friend does and she has none of these things. While I'm not saying I'm a scientific study of one, that makes me believe that the harder to lose weight part isn't true for 100% of the women. Also harder doesn't mean impossible and that's what some people treat it like. I know I did. Which, let's be honest. I didn't actually try at all.
The shaming wasn't meant to do something for anyone. It's for its own little corner. The public stuff was more answers to questions. 'How can I do makeup to contour my face so I look thinner?' 'Just lose some weight' 'I'm too fat to have sex, is there a position I can try?' 'Just lose weight'
SRS was the biggest bunch of brigaders but since they were the social justice pit, it was ok. Either the rules are rules, or they're not.
I'm a very permissive person. If it makes the other person happy, I'm unlikely to say no. It's taken a lot to get to the point where I can say no about anything that seems to irk someone else. You want me to eat this food? But I don't want to. Oh ok. You want a fat girlfriend? But I'm unhappy. Oh ok. I don't like the way you're treating me. It makes you happy? Fine then. I'm done. I have grown a spine. No.
As a fat girl, I got things like 'should you be eating that? I can't believe you ate all of that. That dress doesn't look like it fits well'. As a less fat girl? Bitch. Whore. Slut. Cunt. Um...ok. This is from my supposed friends. Wtf. We won't even go into what it's like to refuse a date. Some of it simply comes from me not being afraid to say no as much anymore. Some of the worst offenders were my feminist friends.
That all said, RL thing I love? Not being obese. I'm still 10 pounds overweight, 20 higher than where I want to be, but holy hell. I don't care how mean to me people are. That's issues they have with themselves. Life is really good not being miserable and I didn't understand how miserable I was until I wasn't anymore.
Pancakes. I just fucking love pancakes and I really want some right now.
@Roz Dude. Pancakes are awesome. I debated that vs a doughnut vs a green tea frapp this morning.
Bleeeegh pancakes. Too gross and heavy. Now, crepes... crepes I can love.
You've never had my patented rozcakes. They have converted people.
Are your rozcakes made of converted people?
I have a waggish sense of humor.
@Roz said:
You've never had my patented rozcakes. They have converted people.
tiny stegos want nummy pancakes! :3
@Misadventure What a preposterous idea. Please join me in my secret, soundproof office so we can discuss further.
@Roz said:
Pancakes. I just fucking love pancakes and I really want some right now.
Click click bloody click pancakes!
But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
-Mark Twain
Earlier this week I went to my first In-n-Out Burger. I quite enjoyed it. Coming from the city that brought you White Castle and Wendy's, it was a nice change.
A co-worker just gave me their Pax Prime pass.
Eeeeeee.
Epic Spell Wars of the Battle Wizards: Duel at Mt Skullzfyre
and
Epic Spell Wars of the Battle Wizards II: Rumble at Castle Tentakill
Love those games so much. Admittedly largely because I totally slaughter my opponents on a regular basis, in those games. BUT! Fun for all. Seriously someone buy them and board-game-nerd-out with me.
@SG I dunno, considering a lot of the shitstorm was banning subreddits that were doxxing, harassing and generally being assholes overtly, I think it's fantastic.
We really don't need Stormfront's subreddits or fatpeoplehate or transgender hating subreddits that think trying to drive a 16 year old transperson to suicide is hilarious.
