The Wheel of Time
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@arkandel
I can't speak for anyone else, but it'd make me feel worse about it. While I don't entirely love the choice, I do get how being inadvertently responsible for the death of someone he loves fits into Perrin's larger arc in the books. If she was evil all along that feels like it lets him off the hook and takes away the thing about it that's actually interesting. -
@arkandel I would want the character to have some purpose beyond traumatizing/driving one of the "main" characters. I would like her life to have some impact on the characters around her, not just her death.
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As well in our house, the spouse and child have both watched it having never read the books and have enjoyed it. Not immensely, but at least enough to want to continue watching it with me. I answer a few questions once in awhile.
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I kinda agree. Unless they are willing to pull a Ned Stark here, Moiraine isn't supposed to be the story's protagonist by any means.
And of course she's a more interesting characters than the others. She has much more screen time than the rest combined at least in this season.
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The costumes are so bad. SO bad. They are so bad that they killed me and I am dead and posting from beyond the grave
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@tek Would you say the grave is no bar to MSB's call?
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@arkandel Well, Moiraine is played by the most well known actor/actress on the show, so I get why they did it. Also the Wheel of Time starts off dominated by one character, but quickly becomes more of an ensemble affair where we get points of view from lots of different main characters. So to be honest, I would rather the show get people used to seeing things from the viewpoints of multiple characters than focusing on just one or two characters like The Eye of the World originally did.
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@rucket Yeah but that's not at all how season 1 went/has gone so far. Except for one episode I'd argue every other has focused half of its time on Moiraine's point of view. For example Perrin has gotten very little focus. Mat has barely done anything that gave the character a voice or agency. Rand is a bit bland although at this point in the books that's justified.
Nynaeve had more moments, mind you, although that's partly because of the actor's excellent chemistry with Lan's (which, to me, is one of the most promising parts of the show). And Egwene had last week's episode to shine a bit.
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Oh. My. Fucking. God.
The opener gave me fucking chills.
The flame & the void gave me chills.
The ending gave me chills.
What an episode.
Holy fucking shit. Shaiel, destroyer of Illianers. Holy shit. If that's what a Maiden can do when about to pop a baby out, I can't WAIT to see what Aiel who aren't affected by a pregnancy can do. Oh man. OH MAN. And then omfg. That sword coming down. You knew, you just KNEW.
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click to showPhew, and that reveal. I loved it. Just loved it. It's a lot different than the books to be sure but the reverberating thumps of just bullseye after bullseye was really really cool. Being an avid soundtrack person, I knew exactly what was about to happen when the music started because that song is called Aman Syndai (Dragon Reborn).
I don't even know exactly what is going to happen to end this season next week but I'm certainly looking forward to it. And then the bleakness as we wait for Season 2.
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@arkandel The only evidence that she was a Darkfriend came from Perrin's nightmare, which was being manipulated by the Dark One or one of the Forsaken. I don't think that wolves are going to exist in dreams like the do in the books.
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So, I know that everyone is gushing about the opening fight...
Yes, it was cool and well choreographed.
But it also just left me shaking my head. Because this series is defining itself on how 'extra' it can be; and that whole sequence just took 'extra', shattered it, then re-assembled the broken pieces.
Also, I'm thinking that Matt didn't join them because the plan for the series is for him to go off and start his booty call storyline in Season 2. Not sure how he's going to get his spear and medallion if that's the case.
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@runescryer said in The Wheel of Time:
Also, I'm thinking that Matt didn't join them because the plan for the series is for him to go off and start his booty call storyline in Season 2. Not sure how he's going to get his spear and medallion if that's the case.
My theory is it's due to whatever happened with Mat's actor.
I simply think he wasn't available to shoot episode 7 (or 8?) at all.
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@runescryer said in The Wheel of Time:
But it also just left me shaking my head. Because this series is defining itself on how 'extra' it can be; and that whole sequence just took 'extra', shattered it, then re-assembled the broken pieces.
Agree, I actually didn't really care for the opening scene.
It was way over the top.
@arkandel said in The Wheel of Time:
My theory is it's due to whatever happened with Mat's actor.
I simply think he wasn't available to shoot episode 7 (or 8?) at all.Yeah, my understanding is that the actor noped out of the show or was noped out of the show for some reason during one of their COVID breaks, so he was completely written out for this season and is getting replaced next. (Which is unfortunate because I rather liked him and thought he was doing a great job of outshining Mat's otherwise less than stellar portrayal in the first few books with pure snark.)
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The Aiel fight scene was not as terrible as I expected but still meh. Meh on par with the rest choreography of the series though.
I wish they explained how the ways were used without the one power though.
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@wildbaboons there is a promotional image under extra content with Fain holding a leaf. So those technically exist I guess, just a lack of time in the episode
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