RL Anger
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I'm not the biggest fan of Snyder's directing but damn
This is really sad.http://ew.com/movies/2017/05/22/justice-league-zack-snyder-daughter-joss-whedon/
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@Arkandel Yeah.
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As for the use of 'Asian' as a descriptor - fair enough. Though in general many people (not all, I am definitely making a generalization here) aren't good at telling the difference between a Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Thai/Viet person, especially at a first glance.
Us "Asian" folks aren't always good at it either, but that does not mean that we appreciate it when people use the term "Asian" or "Oriental" to describe us.
Try "South-East Asian" or "Pacific Asian."
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede So noted; I'm all for calling people whatever descriptor they like, be it nationality, race, gender, or purposeful lack of any of the above.
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Asians are Asians. Americans are Americans. I mean, people from Mexico or Bolivia or Chile don't mind being called Americans, right?
Jokes aside, I refer to myself as a Texan rather than 'American'. So I understand sensitivities to regional descriptors.To me, an Asian is someone who lives in or is from the region. It has nothing to do with your ethnicity.
If I was going to talk about ethnicities, I'd be like... Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Filthy Fucking Filipino, etcetera.
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I changed my mind about my post. In hindsight, it may have come off rude. So small sad, but not angry.
It is hard to move. I'm in a new state and literally know no one but my family. They are cool, but I want friends. Also the city I live in doesn't have many meetup groups.
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@Catsmeow It's kind of a touchy area. Casual racism has turned this easy question into a minefield.
I get where you're coming from though. Sometimes I go to greek restaurants and I can't just ask people I'm damn sure are greek if that's the case, and even if they are there's no guarantee they speak the language. And that's with an ethnic group I'm part of and when I can be reasonably certain no one will be offended if I asked.
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@Admiral said in RL Anger:
Asians are Asians. Americans are Americans. I mean, people from Mexico or Bolivia or Chile don't mind being called Americans, right?
Jokes aside, I refer to myself as a Texan rather than 'American'. So I understand sensitivities to regional descriptors.To me, an Asian is someone who lives in or is from the region. It has nothing to do with your ethnicity.
If I was going to talk about ethnicities, I'd be like... Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Filthy Fucking Filipino, etcetera.
I know you're joking, but people from Chile, Mexico, and Bolivia, (and also Argentina, Brazil, Peru, etc., etc.) are often passively annoyed (in that they don't go out of their way to bring it up, unlike me, right now) with the United States appropriating the demonym of "American". America is a continent. It's not the rest of the land mass' fault the U.S.'s forefathers were about as creative ass a pile of rancid goatcheese when it came to naming their country.
P.S. 'what else would you call them' is typically the reply to this sort of thing, and my answer is easy: Spanish and Portuguese, which are the predominant languages of the continent, both have the grammatical and syntactical capacity to adjectivize "Estados Unidos" ("United States"), and do. We call you all "estadounidenses", which would roughly be the equivalent of Unitedstatesmen (or Unitedstatstians). Yeah, it sounds horrible. But at least it isn't appropriative of a term we'd all like to identify with, but cringe at the thought because of the connotations it has.
As a note, we also often call you gringos, or sometimes yankis (which is a respelling of 'yankee'). Yes, we know not all of you are technically yankees, but you can all go ahead and #notallunitedstatesians to your heart's content.
The problem with 'Asian' as a descriptor is that 'Asia' is huge (and thankfully, none of the countries in the area decided 'I will be the country Asia', like some other country I could mention--oh wait). India is in Asia. Indians are Asians. So 'Asian' means fuckall as a descriptor, especially since socio-economically, politically, culturally, and religiously, these areas are very different.
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@coin IIRC the majority of Russia's landmass would be considered Asian as well. Depending on where you draw the arbitrary lines.
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@coin IIRC the majority of Russia's landmass would be considered Asian as well. Depending on where you draw the arbitrary lines.
The vast majority of Turkey, too. Hell, half of just Istanbul (one of the westernmost cities of Turkey) is in Asia, because it spans the Bosphorus.
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@Sparks You mean Constantinople?
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FFS.... I can't remember the last time someone used the word 'oriental' to describe a person. I think most anyone under an age knows not to use the word. Its used for objects, period. And anyone who does use it incorrectly are easily corrected.
As for Asian ... yeah its used to describe people from Asia. So what? It has nothing to do with ethnicity or culture. Its about coming from a continent. And in everyday speech, I've always heard people refer to Indians as Indians, South-east Asians as ... wait for it ... South-east Asians, and Pacific Asians as Pacific Asians. Generally the only people who are referred to just as Asian are Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongolian, or those South-east Asian countries where there are a lot of those ethnicities (like the Phillipines or Signapore and the like). Its not meant as an insult, has never been an insult and to fabricate it as one in today's stupidly hyper-sensitive world of microaggression idiocy is just annoying.
Lemme guess .. you call white people white ALL THE TIME. Well fuck you for being so insensitive with your microaggression.
People need to fucking chill out and KNOW IN CONTEXT when a term being used to describe them is being used as an insult or not. 95% of the time, its not. Chill.
PS: These meds are turning me into Bea Arthur.
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FFS.... I can't remember the last time someone used the word 'oriental' to describe a person. I think most anyone under an age knows not to use the word. Its used for objects, period. And anyone who does use it incorrectly are easily corrected.
Last week it happened to me because I am Oriental -- I mean, Chinese.
Lemme guess .. you call white people white ALL THE TIME. Well fuck you for being so insensitive with your microaggression.
Microaggressions exist within a context of a power binary, in which the dominant side is the aggressor.
People need to fucking chill out and KNOW IN CONTEXT when a term being used to describe them is being used as an insult or not.
Others don't have the moral or actual authority to explain to me what I should and should not be insulted by.
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To be honest, my heated response is only because I'm a middle-aged reasonable Gen-Xer immersed in academia ... the hot bed of this stupid shit. The war wounds are real with microaggression stupidity.
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The war wounds are real with microaggression stupidity.
I get it. But I always figured that part of being an academic is using terms correctly, regardless how other people incorrectly use them.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@Ganymede I do use the terms correctly. I've managed to make it through my decades without offending anyone with racial terms. Amazing. What offends me is people creating new and interesting ways of being offended. The whole "Microaggressions exist within a context of power binary" ... actually fuck off. That kind of stupid shit is what is making academia a toxic, poisonous pool of immature stupidity.
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I'm sharing this on @Ghost's behalf since he could only share the main screenshot and not crop/edit:
Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.
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Interestingly, if you're looking for coins from Russia on Ebay, they're listed under Europe. I guess white people can't be from Asia.
