RL Anger
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This is true of any rabid fanbase, though.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said:
This is true of any rabid fanbase, though.
I don't know. I've seen loads of fanbois. This felt … special. Like well beyond "short bus" special and into "station wagon driven by a nun" territory.
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@WTFE See, I love Christopher Nolan movies. To me they're amazing. Sure they're not perfect! That's because movie makers cut corners for purposes of story sometimes and other times they get lazy. Whatev.
But I definitely don't see any reason to be insane about Nolan movies to the point of attacking people who dislike them or are even just critical of their flaws. I guess I don't care enough about his movies.
But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
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@WTFE said:
@Coin said:
This is true of any rabid fanbase, though.
I don't know. I've seen loads of fanbois. This felt … special. Like well beyond "short bus" special and into "station wagon driven by a nun" territory.
It's just the relative size of the fanbase that you're reacting to. The more popular and larger the fanbase, the more likely that the least articulate and stupidest of the fans will be present in a large enough capacity to make waves.
There was a show called Drive that lasted four episodes, with Nathan Fillion (among others). And I once ran into a group of fans in a forum. The one rabid fan was super stupid. Everyone else was just a fan. If you blow that up exponentially to "Hollywood pseudo-philosophical blockbusters by world-acclaimed, award-winning, track-record-having director," well...
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OK, I guess I can see that.
Still doesn't change my peeve.
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@Silver said:
I guess I don't care enough about his movies.
I don't care enough about any media to act like some of these people.
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I'm with @Coin, @WTFE. You could basically swap out Christopher Nolan for literally anyone else with a huge fan base and you'll find a large segment that acts exactly like that, in exactly the same ways.
There are some people who can't just like something, they have to go completely batshit with their fanaticism. See: Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Any Given Sports Team, etc.
Basically the same sort of people who write fanfiction.
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RL Peeve, I suppose... but I marvel at the complete and utter inability of the average person to apparently write a proper resume and cover letter in order to submit them for a job.
Not a situation of "Can I submit an application?", but for a professional position that specifically wants to see the resume/cover letter written to know in this case that the person is skilled in that area on the chance that it might be arranged for them to begin offering classes about this to high school students in our community. (Because apparently while it is important to the education system in the US to get good "test scores" and qualify for money, it is less important to teach students how to fill out paperwork for a continued education, financial paperwork or writing a resume, etc.) It's both depressing and mind boggling, particularly when the resumes submitted are coming from retired teachers.
Mind you, it's also something of a peeve people who hear there is a job opening and rather than follow the steps requested, they send an email to the director, implying they should just be handed the job based upon who they know in the community.
An unrelated aside? If you are a person who was downsized out of their job 4 months ago and you have 2 months of your unemployment left and there is a job opening that you are qualified for, and due to your age & education that you have you are unlikely to find any other job like that in the place where you are living - I don't understand why you would blow off turning in a resume for a job with stability in favor of just staying on your unemployment which is going to run out in 2 months, because you make slightly more money on unemployment than you would at this position.
Things that make me bang my head on my desk, position-hiring edition.
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@2mspris said:
implying they should just be handed the job based upon who they know in the community.
...you're not wrong, but in fairness this unfortunately does result in a hire more often than not, provided the degree of "who" and how much they "know" them is adequate.
But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
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@Silver I dunno, given some of the uh, stellar talent I saw of management who happened to be related to the owner of the call center... sometimes I suspect what you know becomes irrelevant in the face of who.
Also, I hate that job search sites are ignoring my 'no childcare' and 'no sales' settings. Look, you fuckwits, I do not handle children or sales well. I do not want to do these things. Stop suggesting them. Aaaaaah.
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@Silver It does happen, certainly - it used to be the way that things were done from what I understand, about a decade ago. It's not been the way it was done at all since the new director came in.
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@silentsophia said:
@Silver I dunno, given some of the uh, stellar talent I saw of management who happened to be related to the owner of the call center... sometimes I suspect what you know becomes irrelevant in the face of who.
Also, I hate that job search sites are ignoring my 'no childcare' and 'no sales' settings. Look, you fuckwits, I do not handle children or sales well. I do not want to do these things. Stop suggesting them. Aaaaaah.
I'm certainly not saying it's a GOOD way to hire...
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Many natural language processors don't do negatives very well. So No Childcare registers as "Childcare" and an unknown job referred to as "No".
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Presumably she's referring to a built-in filter setting that the engine just straight up ignores. I've had that problem in the past too.
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@Wizz Yeah, it's just - driving me up a wall. Their filter is awful.
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@HelloRaptor said:
There are some people who can't just like something, they have to go completely batshit with their fanaticism. See: Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Any Given Sports Team, etc.
Basically the same sort of people who write fanfiction.
Man, we're on a forum for a hobby that is basically cooperative fanfiction.
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@Roz said:
@HelloRaptor said:
There are some people who can't just like something, they have to go completely batshit with their fanaticism. See: Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Any Given Sports Team, etc.
Basically the same sort of people who write fanfiction.
Man, we're on a forum for a hobby that is basically cooperative fanfiction.
If you have a weirdly expansive definition of fanfiction, I guess.
Or... I suppose if you just play at games based on existing entertainment properties that've been twisted into fucked up expressions of fanfiction, like most games based on books/movies/tv, it'd make sense to see it that way.
But like not every girl who is your friend is your girlfriend, not every expression of a fan playing with fiction is fanfiction.
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@HelloRaptor said:
@Roz said:
@HelloRaptor said:
There are some people who can't just like something, they have to go completely batshit with their fanaticism. See: Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Any Given Sports Team, etc.
Basically the same sort of people who write fanfiction.
Man, we're on a forum for a hobby that is basically cooperative fanfiction.
If you have a weirdly expansive definition of fanfiction, I guess.
Or... I suppose if you just play at games based on existing entertainment properties that've been twisted into fucked up expressions of fanfiction, like most games based on books/movies/tv, it'd make sense to see it that way.
But like not every girl who is your friend is your girlfriend, not every expression of a fan playing with fiction is fanfiction.
Apparently only the ~inferior ones~.
It's dumb to act like writing fanfiction is some sort of shorthand for rabid, batshit fanaticism.
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@Roz
Maybe the fanfiction community should stop being so utterly filled with some of the most ridiculously crazy fucking people ever? Fanficcers make MU* drama queens seem utterly tame by comparison.Really, though, I just think your definition is ridiculously wide. If you want to term, say, actors in a stage play with elements of improv as 'fanfic' too, you're welcome to but I think that's shit. Likewise, I don't really consider playing characters within a fictional environment expressly created for the purpose of playing a game to be fanfic, but I could see how if somebody only ever played Transformers, Mega Man, Kushiel, X-Men, blah blah blah insert other stuff based on otherwise self-contained stories, which frequently seem to involve running precreated characters from that setting alongside original creations, as 'kind of fanficcy'.
My 'twisted into fucked up expressions of fanfiction' line might have been unnecessary, but after all the strident essays on why such and such game's canon *is the only one that could ever possibly make sense and if you think Mega-Man isn't hot for Professer Xavier you can just die in a fire' or whatever the fuck, I'm probably biased.
I mean is anybody really going to deny that that crazy bitch who runs the Game of Thrones game isn't just running a giant fanfiction mill? Or that she and her gaggle of fawning supporters aren't just absolutely the worst?
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@HelloRaptor said:
@Roz
Maybe the fanfiction community should stop being so utterly filled with some of the most ridiculously crazy fucking people ever? Fanficcers make MU* drama queens seem utterly tame by comparison.Really, though, I just think your definition is ridiculously wide. If you want to term, say, actors in a stage play with elements of improv as 'fanfic' too, you're welcome to but I think that's shit. Likewise, I don't really consider playing characters within a fictional environment expressly created for the purpose of playing a game to be fanfic, but I could see how if somebody only ever played Transformers, Mega Man, Kushiel, X-Men, blah blah blah insert other stuff based on otherwise self-contained stories, which frequently seem to involve running precreated characters from that setting alongside original creations, as 'kind of fanficcy'.
My 'twisted into fucked up expressions of fanfiction' line might have been unnecessary, but after all the strident essays on why such and such game's canon *is the only one that could ever possibly make sense and if you think Mega-Man isn't hot for Professer Xavier you can just die in a fire' or whatever the fuck, I'm probably biased.
I mean is anybody really going to deny that that crazy bitch who runs the Game of Thrones game isn't just running a giant fanfiction mill? Or that she and her gaggle of fawning supporters aren't just absolutely the worst?
The more salient point of my words is that our hobby is also pretty weird and considered ridiculous by plenty of people outside of it. And just like fanfiction, we've got batshit crazy people in MU* too.
I don't actually think all of MU* RP is fanfiction, it's just a dumb sweeping generalization to make that fanficcers are all batshit insane. So I brilliantly countered with another sweeping generalization.
Fanfiction often gets thrown under the bus in fandom as kind of a "wrong" way to be a fan, which often means the "female" way to be a fan, so I'm biased in the other direction.
There are plenty of dumb people in all areas of all sorts of fandoms; I just limit my exposure to parts I like and ignore the rest. Kind of like ignoring the contingent of terrible players across MU*s.
