RL Anger
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So, a fat black dude goes to buy some fried chicken at Popeye's when ...
I'm not even trying to be racist. Apparently, you can't even be a stereotype without the police getting in your shit. In Hollywood, the Mecca of tolerance and love and hippie bullshit.
To quote Chris Rock: "There ain't a white person in the room that'd change places with me. None of you. None of you would change places with me, and I'm rich."
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I'd totally change places with Chris Rock if he was a little younger.
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I had a really, really interesting talk with a black coworker about the allegations against Bill Cosby. He claimed there was a lot of skepticism in the black community about the timing of the charges against him. I tried whitesplaining to him that it wasn't because Bill Cosby was black.
...and now Morgan Freeman. Maybe there is a damn conspiracy to topple pillars of the black community.
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@admiral Not gonna lie, I felt like that in the very beginning. Still feelin it with Morgran Freeman.
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So, a fat black dude goes to buy some fried chicken at Popeye's when ...
This is A) Utter racist bullshit and ... B) it made me want Popeye's while also feeling bad about wanting to patronize Popeye's.
I always kind of want Popeye's and I'm white as fuck.
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@admiral said in RL Anger:
...and now Morgan Freeman. Maybe there is a damn conspiracy to topple pillars of the black community.
Or maybe powerful men, regardless of color, have been harassing women for generations?
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@ganymede Yes. This is absolutely the truth.
But the truth isn't always just one thing. The truth can be multiple things.
That being said, anyone who objectifies and harasses someone sexually deserves to be called on it. In my (low paying) line of work the guys oggle the crap out of women all day long. Sometimes when I'm working with someone they make comments like 'Oh boy I love yoga day' or 'The view is great in here today.'
Being the SJW I am, I tell them that's unprofessional and ask 'What if someone overhears you? You could be fired. Instantly.'
In truth, I want to say 'That's unprofessional and makes me uncomfortable to hear it.' but I don't want to make enemies of my co-workers.
If Morgan Freeman is guilty, he should be called out on it. However, given the microscope black leaders have been under throughout the history of the US and the glee the white supremacists (alt right) show when one is caught red-handed if I was sexually harassed by Morgan Freeman I probably wouldn't report it.
I don't know if that makes me a bad person or not. LIke I said. The truth can be multiple things.
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@admiral said in RL Anger:
If Morgan Freeman is guilty, he should be called out on it. However, given the microscope black leaders have been under throughout the history of the US and the glee the white supremacists (alt right) show when one is caught red-handed if I was sexually harassed by Morgan Freeman I probably wouldn't report it.
I don't know if that makes me a bad person or not. LIke I said. The truth can be multiple things.
The thing with sexual harassment is that - and we can call it conditioning or loose morals or low standards or cultural acceptance or a million other things - sometimes what we see as sexual harassment from someone we have no interest in, we see as flirting from someone we like or admire. I hope no one jumps on that with the 'But we shouldn't!' angle, since I've already acknowledged that it's not good while accepting that it's common practice, as of today's writing.
I'm happy to say that as time has passed, we've thickened the thin line between harmless flirting and sexual harassment, defining it more clearly as women have fought for and earned a voice in society. But no one can make the case that the line was so visible/intuitive back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and Morgan Freeman was a young man learning how to treat women (roughly the same time period, I'm pretty sure).
Sure, if it's true (a bit of ogling, some inappropriate comments and/or touches, it's not hard to believe honestly) he deserves to be called out and given some social justice medicine to cure his bad social behaviors, but chastising an old man for bad behavior is one thing, putting him in the lineup with actual rapists is another entirely.
It's too early for me to get deep into the race thing, but I've admitted in the past that I (quite unfairly perhaps) see most things in a racist light because my glasses aren't rose-tinted, they're the-color-of-your-skin-is-a-basis-for-murderous-hatred-so-be-on-guard-forever-tinted. So, yeah.
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@Admiral As a young woman of color and who's spent the majority of her adult life in a male-dominated field, I can honestly say that it does not make someone a bad person if they don't want to report that they've been - or suspect that - sexually harassed, regardless of if it's Morgan Freeman or some other random person in a position of influence or power over you. People's natural instincts are anything from not wanting to make enemies out of their co-workers (like you said), risk losing their job, ruining their credibility/not being believed, self-doubt, or any other reason.
No, that doesn't make it right but that's often what it is. People would rather suffer that shit in silence and keep it moving than risk an even worse situation of being viewed as social pariahs and bullied or ridiculed by their peers with slut shaming/accused of lying for X reason.
Or, better yet, the woman blowing her sexual harassment whistle is doing it out of spite and trying to fuck over whatever poor dude wronged her. Or was trying to get some attention in the case of some media stars or influential people having those kind of allegations thrown against tbem.
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There have been accusations of Morgan Freeman having an inappropriate relationship with his step-granddaughter going on for nearly ten years. Combine this with the accusations and I'm willing to believe something isn't right.
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Apparently, you can't even be a stereotype without the police getting in your shit.
It's okay though, in Sterling Brown's case justice has prevailed! The racist cop who started all this was suspended for two days!
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@admiral said in RL Anger:
However, given the microscope black leaders have been under throughout the history of the US and the glee the white supremacists (alt right) show when one is caught red-handed if I was sexually harassed by Morgan Freeman I probably wouldn't report it.
That's your choice, and I understand why, but it was that same silence that covered up decades of Cosby's raping.
There are plenty of pillars of the black community. Where I live, black Americans turn to LeBron James, John Legend, and Dave Chappelle. There are many people that still prop up the community well.
Morgan Freeman is just one man.
In my opinion, the only reasonable thing to do now is turn the spotlight against white men. And, believe me, the number of white men that have been called out for sexual harassment far outweighs the number of upstanding pillars of the black community.
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@ganymede I really don't like that we're really sitting here making comparisons about whether black men or white men are getting called out more for sexual harassment. The spotlight should be on any and everyone equally who ends up being called out for their terrible behavior. This shit is silly now.
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@ganymede A hundred white men get convicted of a specific crime and its #NotAllMen.
One black man gets accused too and its #YesAllN*****rs.
I know my life experience is different from most, as I grew up in a xenophobic hellscape called 'Small Town Texas', but this is exactly how things are where I am from.
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I can totally see not wanting to report it. Just talking about it causes problems, but it shouldn't be the victim's problem. It sucks that it is. I had sexual harassment 'training' at work, done by outsourced, professional HR. She said the law only protects women, there are more false reports than true ones, and how men should avoid at risk behaviour like don't be alone with a woman, or tell a joke, ever. It was literally the most horrifying thing to partake in, I about had a conniption, but there were only 3 other women at the entire company, period. So no one cared.
In the end, the men declared it's best to just not speak to the women again unless it's a must. It wasn't a month later that one of the two female devs quit.
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I sat in Title IX training with my (terrible) boss once. When they were talking about how if a student makes a complaint, the subject of the complaint is immediately moved from the dorm if they share it, he pulled out his phone, thumbed up the now famous Rolling Stone article and showed it to me.
I reported him
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@quinn What article?
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"A Rape on Campus" and the subsequent fallout. The implication being that women on campus lie about sexual assault all the time.
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I lent my lawnmower to a daycare parent who didn't have one yet and needed to mow their lawn. It's electric, cordless.
It's fucking broken. Won't start. I am LIVID.
edit: 45 minutes later, I fixed the starter on it, but now a battery is only charging to half and oh god i'm so over this. Never lending this out. Don't care. If my shit gets broken I can't mow and I have asshole neighbours who break out rulers and scream for the city it it starts to hint at being over 6 inches.