@Shayd said in Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning:
Here's some things that are dichotomies that must be accepted on the game that I have questions about. Please note: my conclusions or even statements may well be incorrect, poor, or stupid. But I feel uncomfortable even bringing them up in-game:
Everything else aside, if we just kept this one thought, it's already showing something's very wrong. Wtf, it's a game. People shouldn't feel uncomfortable asking about things OOC.
Thralldom:
a) PvP is highly discouraged.
b) Thrax holds thralls, which are indentured servants who are oft kept by increasing debts.
c) Opposing Thrax seems to be a bad idea and only doable politically, and at great risk.
d) Opposing Thrax regarding thralls from within seems to be a problem as well (I have no personal experience, just anecdotes).
e) Most anyone who isn't Thrax is instilled societally with a definitive dislike for the concept of thralldom.
So playing a character who would do something about it as-written, it appears as if you're throttled both whether you want to work in the system to fix it , or outside the system to topple it.
Again, from the point of view of a Thrax player.... PvP is discouraged, but politics are not. We're in a political game! That's kind of the point. You can respond in different ways than stabbing a guy in the eye, you know what I mean?
Now, whether it's a bad idea to oppose one of the Greater Houses is basically a point of view. What I don't understand (and I don't mean that rhetorically, I really don't get it) is thinking there is some great risk, or that it's a problem in some way; what are you referring to?
What I think works, in either case, is to not look at thralldom as a problem to be solved. Perhaps look at it as an opportunity for roleplay instead. In other words don't focus so overly much of these things as obstacles but as props meant to facilitate RP; if they weren't there the game wouldn't be better, it would be poorer, since there would be fewer things to roleplay about.
If anyone within Thrax or otherwise tries to OOC dissuade you from playing, makes threats even in a hah-hah-no-but-really fashion or tries to keep you from participating in scenes - say, by omitting you specifically from meetings you should have had access to - then they are assholes. It's pretty much as simple as that.
My offer stands; if you have any issues whatsoever getting RP with Thrax, talk to me in-game.
I'll add to the last bit, if it matters: While I have in the past, it's been many years since I myself pursued TS, and I don't seek it out (I was pursuing romance, not sex). Further, I can't really imagine any society that prostitution in one form or another wouldn't happen. There's always going to be someone who wants a different sort of sex that they cannot easily find or negotiate for free, and there's always going to be someone willing to sell or trade that.
I will be very frank here: I have tried very hard to say nothing in-game about any of these issues - sexuality, prostitution, language - on any public channels, since it's known to trigger Hellfrog hard. Make of that what you will.
On MSB I have no such issues; it's dumb. It's catering to a specific person's political agenda served through a game. I won't do it on the MU* but it makes no sense to me.
In conclusion: frankly, I'd be happier with a game where there was a flat-out statement: We don't want to touch on human sexuality here because people have many varied and different opinions and expressions thereof, so please don't play here if that's what you want.
To be fair they've basically said that in almost those words.
@yourmamasayswhat said in Coming Soon: Arx, After the Reckoning:
Reading about the bans and the logs, especially with the former being so, as someone stated 'nuclear' as far as a reaction, my fear is that it's going to make players more afraid of staff than willing to reach out to them, as it has done with me. I'm legit //terrified// of saying //anything// in OOC, be they pages or public channels, that it will be taken the wrong way, presented to staff, and then held against me at some later date, no matter how great my reputation for being a helpful player is.
At some point it's conceivable the only people reaching out to staff are those who're prepared to agree 100% with them, unless this culture changes. Maybe they are satisfied with it - I don't know - but they are shooting themselves in the foot.
They are basically antagonizing their own players.