Posts made by Auspice

@Ominous said in Punishments in MU*:

When I saw the thread title, I was expecting a Shang discussion.

Carry on.

@Sunny

The plan to provide infographics, flow charts, etc has always been there. Cheat sheets, as you say.
I am fine with this.

I am not fine with making the primary guide so massive and cumbersome that the average person is going to look at it and throw it out because tl;dr. That makes more work for everyone and makes everyone involved less effective at their jobs.

ETA: My whole design methodology is by discovery. Education about the screen they're on, how it's used, and a couple primary (usually required or v useful) hands on scenarios with guidance on discovery from there.
Everyone else has done great with this. Some have even discovered scenarios to recommend for their peers.

She wants every single potential scenario ever to be laid out in extensive detail.

Imagine you have an excel workbook. It has about ten sheets. Each one has perhaps fifty columns. Thousands and thousands of cells of data. Now multiply that workbook by twelve. Each of the twelve users has to do similar but not the same work. They have to sort, input, and view the data in varying ways. Now imagine someone wanted you to give them a book that told them every single potential method.
Method Aaa
Method aab
Method Abb
Method ABC
Method Aba
Method acb
And on and on.

Rather than: here's an example of how to get to ABC and how to get to Aaa and here's some tips and tricks to get the rest on an as-needed basis with a full searchable directory of what each one is and what it does.

Now multiply those twelve workbooks for every department a grocery store has.

There has to be a level of extrapolation.

(BTW the above with the spreadsheets? Is practically what they were doing. This new one is a software suite that does most of it for them. It is actually easier than the spreadsheet. If I was trying to educate these people on the spreadsheets I'd be crying......and there is no existing training. So I don't know how she learned to do her job in the first place tbh.)

@Tinuviel said in Best/Worst: Poetry Edition:

ETA: My favourite poem is XVII (I do not love you...) by Pablo Neruda.

@Derp said in Best/Worst: Poetry Edition:

But what was the poem?!?

I'll try to dig through my school shit when I get home and see if I can surface the link. I can't find it on a google search rn.

I have a sort of love-hate relationship with poetry. Partially (completely) because of a middle school English teacher who, when we did poetry, insisted that all poetry must rhyme. Full stop. No exceptions. (I hated that lady for other reasons, too, but.)

However, in efforts of betterment I've been slowly (so slowly because of the long-standing hatred) trying to expand myself over the years. So, what are your favorite poems? Alternatively, what are your least favorite (if you have one)?

I have two favorites. One is perhaps cliche, but I love it anyway:
Dylan Thomas' Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
the other is the one quoted in my (current) sig:
Mary Elizabeth Frye's Do Not Stand at My Grave and Weep

My least favorite I cannot currently find a link for. It was one we had to write an essay on in my course on poetry in my degree program. Downside: having to dissect and write a paper on that poem. Upside: I completely tore that poem apart, got a 100, and had the instructor ask if she could use my paper as an example in future classes.

So: favorite poems? Most hated?
Heck, thoughts on poetry in general?

@Arkandel said in Great TV:

@Auspice Is The Expanse good? I've heard positive things.

(Chrisjen is my favoritist ever)

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@Ganymede said in NOLA: The Game That Care Forgot:

@RDC

Everyone vote for Salty.

There will be booty.

I already voted for Pepper.

@Jeshin said in The Work Thread:

@Auspice

A lot of jobs have that little disclaimer line "You will be expected to stand for long periods of time and be required to lift and carry things" there needs to be a "You will be expected to read the documentation and ask for additional training if necessary"

for real.

Like, we have a guy in the scrimmage who began the job a week before.

Everyone else got roughly 12 hours of workshops to train them in the tool. She was in this, for example.

This guy? A 45 minute tl;dr.

He's come back to us with a few questions, some needs for clarifications in the training. But for the most part? He has hit the ground running. Pro.

Like, people have absolutely had points that need clarification. Places where language was unclear. Places where they'd like a bit more detail, etc.

She wants every last detail.

She doesn't want: 'Write an essay between 300 and 500 words about your favorite wolf and deliver it by 8pm, Friday.'
She wants: 'Using a ball-point pen with a removable cap (not a click-pen), write an essay on college-ruled paper and deliver it by 8pm CST, Friday the 22nd of November. To use the pen, first remove the cap. To write, place the pointed end to the paper. The essay must be precisely 325 words long and it must be about timber wolves. It has to have no more than....'

Like, everyone else would understand the first: cool, you don't care what format it's in, so long as it's done. Or they'd understand: I need to reference previous metrics re: essays.

She wants 99% of the work done for her ahead of time.

I do not believe in catering to the lowest common denominator.
I understand that training materials are there to help and you need to consider the lcd, but I do not believe in catering to the lcd.

We have someone at work who needs such prescriptive instructions to the level that you cannot say:
'Here is a screenshot of the screen you will be working in for this stage of the work.'
'These are the fields that are required, all others are optional and to be used as-needed.'
^ average person can go OK, great. I can work with this (and every other user in the scrimmage HAS).

She is the type of user who wants:

• Here is a step-by-step slideshow of how to get to this screen in the tool.
• Here is a screenshot with each required field highlighted.
• Here is a detailed example of what to fill into each required field with a reminder that you do not need to save after each.
• Here is a detailed example of what you might fill into each optional field, with extensive details as to when you will or will not need the optional fields, and reasoning why the are optional. And a reminder that you do not need to save after each.
• Here is how to save, even though it is exactly the same as every other screen in the software.
• Here is how to submit, even though it is exactly the same as every other screen in the software.

I have argued against this.
Vehemently.
Because I know people.
I know that this will make the training material so long that most users will take one look at it, go 'nope' and just hassle the support/training team for every single question they have (thus causing more work for everyone).
It will turn 'average capable users' into 'lowest common denominator' users themselves.

This sort of manual is how you end up with companies where there's 'Oh, go ask Bob, he knows how to do all those weird things in the software' and you find out that Bob actually read the document and no one else did and every single answer is in there but no one ever reads it because of how ridiculously repetitively detailed it is...

...because it catered to Karen, who rather than just put the effort into doing her job, cried until someone held her hand and did it for her.

https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-claim-a-they-ve-found-even-more-evidence-of-a-new-force-of-nature

@Ghost said in Punishments in MU*:

I have typed and discarded 2 responses and want credit for having the willpower to discard them instead of posting them.

+2 points for discarding them, -4 for bragging about it.

@L-B-Heuschkel

Wonder if it was the same lady I mentioned above.

She supposedly had inherited a ranch in AZ and had rescued over 40 dogs!

....but had no job and thus needed money/donations to support her and her kids and all the dogs.

@Ghost said in Punishments in MU*:

@Tinuviel said in Punishments in MU*:

@Ghost said in Punishments in MU*:

@Ganymede You have properly identified me as the cat.

Oh, then I'm the bed.

And on your birthday? The sandbox.

When we do it the special way

@mietze

Ugh. That's gross. Like, the kid part is gross.

Many years ago, on a game, we found out someone was doing something similar (not the medical part; but using photos of other peoples' kids).

It got discovered because a bunch of us from the game were hanging out (a few of us lived local-ish in SC: 3 people were roommates, I lived an hour away... a couple people had flown in to visit, so I drove down) and two guys mentioned that this girl had sent them photos of herself, flirting with them. One of them was married, had told her this, and she persisted. So, y'know, all of us young (early 20s) and drinking are like 'omg show us' and he had a link still (logged everything). Well, so did the other guy.

As soon as we see them: 'That's not the same person!'
I showed them how to reverse image search: they were photos off of modeling agency sites.

Which, OK. Whatever. We had a good laugh over it, it seemed harmless. She needed to stop trying to mack on the married dude, but OK. Fine.

...but then she began, on channels, a few weeks later, telling everyone about her kids. And sharing photos of them. And knowing about the whole fake-model-photos thing.... I reverse-image-searched those. The two photos were both of three kids, all blonde, but if you looked really close they.... looked similar but not really the same three kids.

And both went to completely different profiles on message boards.

That's when what she was doing went from 'kinda weird, but mostly harmless' into pretty skeevy.

Don't use pics of other peoples' kids, folks.

@Arkandel said in Punishments in MU*:

@Auspice said in Punishments in MU*:

@Arkandel said in Punishments in MU*:

@Tinuviel said in Punishments in MU*:

No, your punishment is that you're still here all these years later, talking about the same things with the same people and getting the same answers.

I wish I at least played so I had some kind of excuse for it, too.

I even asked you to RP with me this week.

Elves

if I can forget they're elves most of the time so can you

@Ganymede said in MU Things I Love:

@RightMeow said in MU Things I Love:

So I had a horrible day yesterday. I'm not going into it because no one cares (I'm totally okay with that btw). However, I pulled myself out for RP. I camped down and the people made me laugh so much. It made my day better. They didn't even know I was having a bad one.

I usually have nothing but hate for people who idle in the OOC Lounge waiting for RP to come to them.

But I have come to realize in my old age that many folks are idling there and not waiting for RP to come for the reasons you mention above.

Some people are just damn funny over channels, and laughing at them can be therapeutic.

some days (a lot of them lately thanks to work) I just don't have the energy for RP, but I need to chill and relax in those few hours before I ptfo.
And getting to just bs around with people and have fun? It makes up for the hard day.

@Arkandel said in Punishments in MU*:

@Tinuviel said in Punishments in MU*:

No, your punishment is that you're still here all these years later, talking about the same things with the same people and getting the same answers.

I wish I at least played so I had some kind of excuse for it, too.

I even asked you to RP with me this week.

@Coin said in Punishments in MU*:

@Tinuviel said in Punishments in MU*:

@Arkandel said in Punishments in MU*:

@Coin said in Punishments in MU*:

@Tinuviel said in Punishments in MU*:

@Coin said in Punishments in MU*:

It was, after all, just a joke.

At your expense.

But a joke. >.>

If you have to explain it as such, perhaps it wasn't.

Maybe not a good one, alas.

Is this thread tangent my punishment in MU?

No, your punishment is that you're still here all these years later, talking about the same things with the same people and getting the same answers.

Is it really a punishment if everyone else is also suffering it? Does punishment necessitate it be the exception to the norm? Or can punishment be absolute? </philosophical coin>

Now we're just getting into S&M and we already have a thread for that.