@Ghost said in The Case Against Real PBs:
There will never be a forum for this hobby that isn't toxic
https://forum.aresmush.com/. It is not toxic. It also has no real traffic, because you're right - a large chunk of the community wants the hog pit (or the other place's equivalent) and the rest (understandably) just go where the people are.
Electric Soup back in the day wasn't toxic either. It had very little traffic compared to WORA, but we were happy in our little peaceful corner of the world. I was sad when it closed, because then I was left with "WORA or nothing" and I chose nothing. MSB gave me hope for something better because it at least tried to have a constructive section.
@Ghost said in The Case Against Real PBs:
This, I feel, is constructive.
What I advocate for is a forum that is both constructive AND civil. I don't think you can truly have one without the other.
Your points are often valid, but are presented in such an antagonistic manner that they get lost. People just end up reacting to the flames. So no, I don't feel that's constructive from a forum standpoint - and I say that as a friend who genuinely enjoys chatting with you 1-on-1.