...Jesus Christ.
How much of a blanket this reality fucking sucks statement is it if you choose to no longer be yourself and live the rest of your days as an imaginary My Little Pony character?
...Jesus Christ.
How much of a blanket this reality fucking sucks statement is it if you choose to no longer be yourself and live the rest of your days as an imaginary My Little Pony character?
@misterboring Shrug. and? You're taking a response that I took to someone who came to Reddit to bully me as a sign that I'm not believing in what I say about an entirely different forum. A little prestidigitation, there.
Good effort to stir up shit, though.
The context of that response (which has been cleverly omitted in lieu of trying to make some sort of super important argument about me being a hypocrite) was about the "clique" and their bullying and how I felt about their toxic behaviors, bullying, and how unironic it was that 20 of them showed up to a thread I was in on a completely different service to dogpile me. Others who were familiar with the Hog Pit had brought it up, too.
There's nothing wrong with me being happy to see this place take a more respectful approach on an individual basis, and that I feel that way about that group of people (as stated on another completely different service) has no relevance towards my hopes of how things go here.
These people try so hard.
If I get into the tuplamancy thing, can I be this?
Because FUCK YEAAAAAAH BOI
Good for you, this is a cool project.
Being the v5 storyteller that I am, I've always found v5 to probably be the best version (mechanically) of WoD to apply to MUing.
There's simply just a lot more "story" in v5/w5 baked into the system that should lend really well to the MU hobby. That, and the Masquerade/Apocalypse setting is so much better than the Requiem/Forsaken setting.
@Wizz See? It's totally normal; totally harmless.
@ZombieGenesis said in Unmakeable Games:
@Ghost I ran a M&M game a very long time ago. It might have even been first edition. Maybe 2nd. It did okay but did run out of steam.
I do agree that ease into entry is very much a big thing. It's why I've ultimately given up on trying to use any sort of RPG system on a game unless it's FS3 or a basic traits system. If there was a fleshed out CoD/WoD plugin for Ares maybe that would be included.
RE: GI Joe, I actually do think you could do that fairly well with FS3.
GI Joe, I can't remember, is that modiphius or free league? Those systems aren't terribly complicated. Heck, I would totally play the TTRPG.
Gods help me.
My dad has been busy as fuck since I was a baby, and is now nearing retirement age. Currently, his schedule is pretty empty, so for the last few weeks he's done nothing but sit in front of his TV with his cell phone and blather on about politics on Facebook. I don't want to block his posts, because he also posts family stuff, but it's a nonstop tirade of the following:
BlargaBlargaBlargatheGaysBlargaBlargaLiberalsBlargaBlargaClintonBlargaBlargaBlargaMakeAmericagreatagainBlargaBlargaBlarga**LiberalsAreScum
Took him 60+ years, but my dad just now discovered what internet trolling is.
F.M.L.
For starters, I will disagree that people in the MU community are mainly interested in Urban Fantasy and Super Heroes. I think for many these games have revolving tropes and character concepts they revisit over and over and over again. Most hero MU players you'll read say things like "I'm a psylocke, emma, kitty, etc" and have close ties to their "relationship" roleplay partners oocly who have, on multiple occasions, romanced their characters with Booster Gold, Hawkman, whatever.
Fact is that SH games are popular because of two reasons:
Point in case, IIRC was it you @ZombieGenesis or someone else who tried Mutants and Masterminds as a system and it didn't last long? I imagine any super game that used any of the crunchy systems like FASERIP or Champions would fall flat so long as a "write out your sheet" SH MU with somewhat passable staff existed.
WoD/CofD are somewhat similar. There's a lot of Anita Blake in those games and in my experience I've encountered 3 kinds of players on Urban Fantasy games:
Some players are just so used to WoD/CofD that the learning curve is over and they're familiar with it.
SO, ONTO THE TOPIC...
I think all unmakeable games fall into association with these concepts.
I think that people would absolutely play in the THEME of Shadowrun, CpunkRed, Eclipse Phase, Traveler, or any other crunchy system so long as the crunchy system isn't something they have to learn. I will go so far as to say that most MUers are NOT TTRPG players and there is such an aversion to dice deciding anything contrary to what they want for the dreaded my story that introducing a system and ACTUALLY USING IT is a fool's errand.
Now, the only caveat I have for this is Firan/Arx, because there were automated wealth/powerbuilding systems that people could metagame on the side. The systems were a little more complex, but there were clear, established ways to get up and over most players through ooc networking, asking people to do wealth system stuff that (like a pyramid org) came back to build your own character, and as I understand it...in the end led to power-locked, unbeatable factions who churned this to the point of no return.
So, tl;dr?
Cool setting, less dice. Otherwise it's dubious at best.
@Arkandel I KNOOOOOW, but my dad's typing is very ineloquent and filled with spelling errors.
Example: "MAGA! Trump firs people that don't do there job, Obama didn't!"
...And it's hard, Ark. It's hard to read.
@Warma-Sheen said in Observation:
abandonment
Was it really abandoned, though? really abandoned? <hand-wobble>
@hobos said in Observation:
People are going to act like people, pretty much all the time, I guess. But I'm probably weird because I almost prefer being reamed every time I open my virtual mouth on any issue, to the feeling that I am participating in selfish hypocrisy by posting here.
A bit to unpack, here. So you're saying that you prefer to be verbally accosted every time you open your mouth to participating in a "selfish hypocrisy" that has been mostly tame and quiet? I gotta say, you sound 100% purely dedicated to an environment filled with positivity and "normal human-type communicative behavior" and it shows!
Bizarre statement altogether, imo. It's kind of a "Scottie Pippen Fade Shot I'm not saying something factual but saying something potentially provocative but idk lol j/k grr i really mean this but not sure what this means" statement. It's not really helpful.
I think that if you look at it from a certain perspective, the rift was probably the most directly honest thing to happen in the hobby in probably 20 years.
(Taken from famously epic fan-fiction entry named My Immortal by Tara Gilesbie)
Hi my name is Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair (that’s how I got my name) with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid-back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me I look like Amy Lee (AN: if u don’t know who she is get da hell out of here!). And then the murders started.
Edit: http://myimmortal.wikia.com/wiki/My_Immortal/Chapters_1-11 (enjoy!)
@Macha said in Observation:
@Warma-Sheen Well, when you consider a LOT of the MU-threads of the title before, was a lot of negative talk about things, people playing there or here, and so on?
To be honest, if I /am/ playing somewhere, I'm not likely to talk about it. For reasons I would feel are obvious.
I'm playing all kinds of places right now that people don't want me to be at.
Or am I? idk. I'm currently into PBs with dark haired guys with stubble. Figure it out.
All jokes aside I 100% support you playing under the radar. Everyone should. It gives abusive personalities less of an attack surface.
Once, my SO and I found out, due to a failed stamina roll at an IC house party scene, that the guy running the game was really into date rape roleplay.
Or should I say my SO found this out because it was her character.
He was booted out of our apartment after he told her to stop being so sensitive about it.
@ZombieGenesis Right on. I'm always in the market for a good Supers system, because supers games are either way too "free form rpg" (BESM) for my tastes or are eye-meltingly crunchy (Champions). I haven't gone through the book post-beta, but I'm hoping they put in a solution for the challenge level system I found to be somewhat confusing.
@Devrex Yeah, there is a downside to SPG. About 90% of the games are D&D and there's no "exclude this game system from search" option, so there's some "go fish" involved.
The other issue with SPG is some of these people are asking $25-$35 per session on weekly games, and most of the people doing this are the ones trying to turn being a GM into a full time job. So one game may net some GM 500/month. Shit, I saw one this week where a guy was asking $75/session per player. There's also something different with the GMs who are trying to supplement an entire income from SPG; the ones I've been in contact with tend to be really militant about filling those player slots and booting people for being absent because it's more about the income and less about the game.
Regardless, I don't think I'd ever charge more than $15/session, but it is a good platform for finding GMs who are actually looking to produce a quality game experience, because if they're shit GMs their players will drop. There's something I like about the arrangement where I'm a paying customer and if they're flaky and keep canceling games I'm not risking a friendship by quitting.
Just ask @auspice. I only eat her tube steak.
#goldcardstr8
@reimesu TTRPG has been good to me. More consistent, less drama, and my creativity isn't restricted by the social side-game. I'm fixing to run some v5 here soon.
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Here's the kind of material that actually comes across like a true story to other IT people (actual true story):
So my company had a tier 2 data center where their main power supply failed due to a storm. One of the data center techs miswired the backup UPS to the data center, so when the data tried to fail over to the secondary power supply, it failed. Turns out the guy plugged the backup cabling into the primary instead of the backup. SO...we had this huge network outage, everyone's hair was on fire, and when they go into the data center to fix the problem...the doors were locked.
The doors had an electronic thumbprint security system that was running off of the data center's power supply, so they were locked out. Their shitty cabling setup locked them out from getting INTO the data center to route power to the secondary.
Around that time, the Group Executive (boss's boss's boss's boss) announces on a conference call that he's going to take off his suit and tie, roll up his sleeves, and go down there and fix the problem with his team. The Executive was a SUIT, had zero skills, but those poor bastards had to work with a boss three levels above them directing traffic and cracking the whip. Awkward.
True story.
I can tell that to other IT people and they will not only know I'm not full of shit, but that I actually work in IT
@Misadventure said in The Case Against Real PBs:
overwrites the imagination
I loved that.
And I get it. I'm not a "slut shamer" or whatever. I don't even mind TS in theory, but in my experiences a lot of the TS is more linked to "what's your ooc kink" than "what's your character's kink", which is why I liken the concept for a number of players to it as less of a writing thing and more of a personal gratification thing.
But either way, my litmus test is "is it wrong to use a 'real' person's image (ex: Facebook, your RL girlfriend, or someone's mom) as a PB?" and if the answer is yes, then for the same reasons it's wrong to use celebrities, too.
But if it's not wrong then fuckyeah I'm gonna use every one of the cliques uncle's as PBs, right?